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InternalTraining

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That would be great, but the Hampshire league has had 5 panel umpires resign since the start of the season! Finding people to actually do it would be the biggest challenge.

We were short on umpires last year. The league made a rule that each club would provide a number of leg umpires for (leg umpire) training, this is mandatory (compulsory). Now, this year, we have one regular umpire standing at the non-striker end and a leg umpire who belong to a neutral club officiating the game. This has alleviated the problem of umpire shortage.
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What this also goes to highlight is variation in rules in cricket. Heaven forbid everyone actually plays the same game across the country like ever other sport
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What this also goes to highlight is variation in rules in cricket. Heaven forbid everyone actually plays the same game across the country like ever other sport

TBF most sports have different versions, there are 5-aside vs 11-aside football and sometimes the rules are slightly different
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The obvious ones for me are:

Earlier start times resulting in earlier finishes

Penalties for slow over rates

A quick turn around with no break for food

More T20 leagues for those unable to commit to giving up a whole day to play
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Another way of speeding up the game in corporate games is to bowl all the overs from one end. Not sure where the idea of bowling overs from alternate ends came in but a good deal of time is spend with the fielders switching ends after each over
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We were short on umpires last year. The league made a rule that each club would provide a number of leg umpires for (leg umpire) training, this is mandatory (compulsory). Now, this year, we have one regular umpire standing at the non-striker end and a leg umpire who belong to a neutral club officiating the game. This has alleviated the problem of umpire shortage.

so the leg umpire doesn't get to play that day because he's stood at square leg at another game for 80 overs?!
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Another way of speeding up the game in corporate games is to bowl all the overs from one end. Not sure where the idea of bowling overs from alternate ends came in but a good deal of time is spend with the fielders switching ends after each over


Hmmm... I think too much strategic nuance would be lost. Half the tactical battle is working out how to deal with/take advantage of different boundaries sizes, slopes, wind directions etc.
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so the leg umpire doesn't get to play that day because he's stood at square leg at another game for 80 overs?!

Matches are held on both Saturday and Sunday. I have not heard of any complaints from leg umps re: missing games. Also, the regular umpires also play but in different divisions so technically the system accommodates umpiring duties and match availability.
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TBF most sports have different versions, there are 5-aside vs 11-aside football and sometimes the rules are slightly different

You don't need a PhD to try and work out what you are playing for or if you can be arsed to play on a given day switching 11 to 5 football. That analogy is more akin to 50 vs 20 over cricket. The million permutations of rules, restrictions, bonus points, overs, overs per bowler, etc, etc between "one day" amateur leagues and matches is quite unique
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The game against us was a freak occurrence, and we only both ended up with such huge points as the game was technically incomplete(you never finished your innings)

If you was 9 runs short with 1 wicket left on a full game. Youd have only got 8 bonus points and wed have took 20 for the win.


Normal game is 20 for win if you dont bowl oppo out, 25 for winning if you do bowl them out.

Dependant on what the losing side do in the second innings depends on what bonus points they get. The closer percentage wise they get to first innings score the more points they get(encourages teams to not block and keep trying to score runs).
The more wickets they take the more bonus points  they get, so even if the oppo need ten of 20 overs, youll still try to get a wicket or two more to up your points.


They also have a rule to stop opposition blocking up, if the oppo dont get 50% of the first innings score, they get nothing and the winning side get the extra 5 bowling points even if they dont bowl them out.



Regardless you should have won. Your openers innings was the best Ive seen in a long time. Shame he didnt get a ton.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that it was an incomplete game. I still can't believe we didn't go for it. I doubt we will ever get a chance to beat you again!!

I hate it when I go in at 8 or 9 and someone tells me I have to bat sensibly to get another 20 runs. Everyone else gets to bat how they want but then you have to bore yourself to get a few points in a league where the top teams have 300 plus points at the end of the season.
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Matches are held on both Saturday and Sunday. I have not heard of any complaints from leg umps re: missing games. Also, the regular umpires also play but in different divisions so technically the system accommodates umpiring duties and match availability.

We have enough issues getting sides out one day a week.
There's no way we'd be able to get people give up half their weekend to stand at square leg for 80 overs in a game they have no connection to!
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You don't need a PhD to try and work out what you are playing for or if you can be arsed to play on a given day switching 11 to 5 football. That analogy is more akin to 50 vs 20 over cricket. The million permutations of rules, restrictions, bonus points, overs, overs per bowler, etc, etc between "one day" amateur leagues and matches is quite unique

As long as the skipper understands, the players can be safely oblivious. I've gone out to field before now not knowing how many overs I was going to be out there for.
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We have enough issues getting sides out one day a week.
There's no way we'd be able to get people give up half their weekend to stand at square leg for 80 overs in a game they have no connection to!

That is unfortunate.

I have an ex-club mate who plays in a higher division and I see him ump in 2-3 of my games every season. There is no cricket here and people do this for the love of the game. Basically, we accept that we won't have any cricket if people don't make some sacrifices and the leg umpire policy spreads out the burden across all clubs in the league.
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Also I agree with @mattw on the 2xT20 format.

We played this in an inter-club friendly last season and will do again this year. Its a fantastic format which brings the excitement of a T20 with the tactics of a test match. Rather than playing two separate games we just play a two innings game of 20 overs per side. Its absolutely brilliant and as a batsman you get to have two goes :)

We play that format in the 2020 county cup final and none of our team like it. One bad innings either way still decides it so usually the second dig is a formality for one team or another.
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I suppose it depends on the level you play at. You rarely see a score over 230 in our league. 230 is daunting and we would always have a go and then when we get to 7 or 8 down people start working out how many for an extra point and the game dies. The bowling team know they have won but need all wickets for full points and the batsmen shut up shop and try to eek out another 10 or 20 runs for another point. It is boring to watch and boring to do.

The other thing is that a team could score 300 and the opposition knowing they won't get it start batting like they are saving a test to earn a few points and deny full points to a team who are clearly better. In two games one team could score 350 runs and their opponents could finish on 130/8. In another match a team could get 120 runs and bowl their opposition out for 119. The winners of the second match get 20% more points that the winners of the first. Which game has the most comprehensive victory?

Maybe it is just me but I would prefer to end a game quickly if you are getting a hiding. Not many people playing a game of football 8-0 down want to play the last 10 minutes.

If you cant TAKE ten wickets youre not obviously better.. you just batted better.. this is the funny thing with win lose.. its gone from being a bat and bowling all round team to simply if we smash 300+ more often and not the oppos will more often than not fail to chase so we are obviously better.. if you allow a team to decide actually, we arent good enough to get 300 but youre also mot good enough to take my wicket.. actually, both sides deserve the draw

After all.. its all fun if youre the team who slaps runs for fun . Its not fun if a team racks up a monster score but you know they arent good enough to take your wicket..simply rely on you giving it away slogging.. thats also just as Boring..

This have a bit of fun, hit out isnt what some players play for so its not fun to go out hitting . The game is there so all types of players have a role.. what we have now is a generation who want to have a format purely for one style of player then we wonder why people are walking away
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