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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2018, 04:39:54 PM »

Less impressed to see Dawson in that squad.  A left over from the experiment of picking spinners based on their ability to bat.  Ali and Root are there as batsman who can bowl spin and Rashid has a comparable first class average to Dawson with the bat.  There should be a front line spinner taking that spot

Dawson was one of the major standout performers in the England lions tri series (from all teams) this summer including ripping through a strong spin playing side like India A in English conditions. His bowling record and consistency alone in recent years puts him up there as one of the best limited overs spinners in the country before you even start to consider his batting and gun fielding.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2018, 05:45:46 PM »

Dawson averages less than one wicket per match in his list a career, so he's not scaring anyone with his non turning left armers. He's merely a fill in in case Moeen gets a knock, Dawson in quite frankly no more that bits and pieces(poor mans Jadeja/Shakib)
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2018, 06:31:38 PM »

Dawson's just there as cover isn't he - very unlikely to actually play any cricket but steady head and won't let anyone down as a replacement for Ali or Rashid if called upon. Gun fielder as well iirc? If they were considering playing 3 spinners you'd assume 4 would have made the squad.

Seems to me to be an odd player to take on tour as cover though when we are nonths away from a world cup.  Would much rather see a young spinner with something about him like Matt Parkinson have that opportunity
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2018, 06:51:04 PM »

Seems to me to be an odd player to take on tour as cover though when we are nonths away from a world cup.  Would much rather see a young spinner with something about him like Matt Parkinson have that opportunity

They won't take a third spinner in the World Cup squad, so it actually makes some sense to take a guy who is there and thereabouts and known to be a good tourist.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2018, 06:56:59 PM »

Dawson averages less than one wicket per match in his list a career, so he's not scaring anyone with his non turning left armers. He's merely a fill in in case Moeen gets a knock, Dawson in quite frankly no more that bits and pieces(poor mans Jadeja/Shakib)

An excellent example of how a changing playing role (among other reasons) can affect someones career stats. Take the last 3 years and Dawsons wickets per match increases to 1.6.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2018, 08:54:45 PM »

An excellent example of how a changing playing role (among other reasons) can affect someones career stats. Take the last 3 years and Dawsons wickets per match increases to 1.6.

Wait, you mean he didn't take any wickets in those matches early in his career when he played solely as a batsman, and that had an effect on his average number of wickets per game?
Don't let the truth cloud your judgement of irrelevant stats ;)
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2018, 09:05:51 AM »

one day squad out

Olly Stone in it, I think a forum tip for the top  :)

liam dawson still in which is a bit of a surprise.

 Ollie Stone now he's back to full fitness probably would have been selected sooner except for injury
tipped him to tour in the England v India thread  watched him bowl in July topped 90 MPH.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2018, 11:06:02 AM »

When's the test squad out - that's the one that interests me!
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2018, 11:06:50 AM »

Test squad is out tomorrow and there are rumours that Jason Roy could be in it. 😮😮😮
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2018, 11:32:13 AM »

Test squad is out tomorrow and there are rumours that Jason Roy could be in it. 😮😮😮

Pffft! You've been on the office sherry a bit early haven't you?
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2018, 11:42:45 AM »

Pffft! You've been on the office sherry a bit early haven't you?
Nah, just passing on what the Wisden editor has said.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2018, 05:22:28 PM »

Roy would be my first pick to open for the test
  He has shown he has what is necessary to perform on the international stage something we are in fairly short supply of when it comes to openers 
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2018, 06:02:32 PM »

I would question whether Roy has the defensive technique against spin for test cricket. We all know that in one day stuff he can take offies in particular to the cleaners, but on a day 4/5 deck in Colombo would he be able to keep out enough balls to get a decent score?
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2018, 06:10:16 PM »

I would question whether Roy has the defensive technique against spin for test cricket. We all know that in one day stuff he can take offies in particular to the cleaners, but on a day 4/5 deck in Colombo would he be able to keep out enough balls to get a decent score?
Only one way to find out. I think he's great, and would give him a crack, but has to be said the skill set is vastly different when it won't matter how many runs you get personally and you just need to keep am attack out. Like I said though, I think he can, and as SD has said he's shown great maturity and ability to deal with pressure in the shorter forms.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2018, 06:12:43 PM »

Also gives us a right/left option with burns (or Jennings if the selectors are weak)
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