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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2018, 06:39:25 PM »

Tests like these are a sure shot way to lead to demise of tests. Unless ICC does something to even out home advantage, tests will soon be extinct. Players like Kohli/Root might keep saying Test cricket is alive, it is his favorite format etc etc, but game runs with viewers, not just the playing xi.  I am sure no one from WI will want to watch these tests given the obvious result.  No one knows what is best way to even out home advantage but at least doing away with toss and let visiting captain decide is a start to bring some competitiveness into the game.  More measures need be evaluated even then to make sure games are competitive.





Totally..the away captain should get the toss I can't think for the life of me why this idea is so negatively received in the media..and often on this forum.

Pitches ain't gonna change this is the easiest way to get more even competitive cricket.

Half of me thinks they actually want test cricket to die so the money spinning one day or t20 gets flogged for more cash and no one need bother with 5 day.

It's......insert swear word......tragic !!!
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2018, 07:02:07 PM »

Is this on tv anywhere ?

Pointless series really but its better than limited overs stuff
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2018, 07:13:18 PM »

Let us be honest here, had Windies batted first I still don't think they would've reached 300. Until the WICB stops putting all their revenue into their board members pockets, Windies won't get their better players playing Test cricket. The contracts offered to Gayle, Lewis, Russell etc are quite frankly embarrassing. The board members are taking home 7 figures, whereas the star players are being offered between $70,000-200,000. Windies players are branded 'greedy' yet why should some pen pusher take home 7 figures when it's the players essentially earning that revenue?
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2018, 07:27:50 PM »

Is this on tv anywhere ?

Pointless series really but its better than limited overs stuff

Now Windies are batting it probably won't even last as long as a limited overs game. Like a pack of cards
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2018, 07:31:40 PM »

Let us be honest here, had Windies batted first I still don't think they would've reached 300. Until the WICB stops putting all their revenue into their board members pockets, Windies won't get their better players playing Test cricket. The contracts offered to Gayle, Lewis, Russell etc are quite frankly embarrassing. The board members are taking home 7 figures, whereas the star players are being offered between $70,000-200,000. Windies players are branded 'greedy' yet why should some pen pusher take home 7 figures when it's the players essentially earning that revenue?

Modern world. Loads of pen pushing roles take home monster wages
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2018, 07:41:17 PM »

Let us be honest here, had Windies batted first I still don't think they would've reached 300. Until the WICB stops putting all their revenue into their board members pockets, Windies won't get their better players playing Test cricket. The contracts offered to Gayle, Lewis, Russell etc are quite frankly embarrassing. The board members are taking home 7 figures, whereas the star players are being offered between $70,000-200,000. Windies players are branded 'greedy' yet why should some pen pusher take home 7 figures when it's the players essentially earning that revenue?

Point is not that WI would have won or even be competitive if they batted first. There will be one sided games in any sport between two vastly differently ranked teams. However, games between evenly ranked teams will be more competitive with change in toss rules. And in case of WI here, there is possibility that the loss will be less severe if they bat first in general (though this particular match is a one off where they played really badly).
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2018, 08:09:11 PM »

I've felt in recent times Windies feel obligated to play India whenever the BCCI requires them due to the IPL/NOCs.
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2018, 08:14:27 PM »

And by the same token, if India, Sri Lanka or Bangladesh or Pakistan for that matter(although I've watched them here last two tours and they played pretty well) tour over here especially with the short straw in May hand them the toss. Simply hand it to them....

England winning at Home and Pakistan as an example being virtually unbeatable in UAE or Lanka at home is getting all too predictable.

try it...what is there too lose. I'd rather see England pushed at home, it would be a better contest.

Vaughan doesn't think it a good idea is that it?  :) :)
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2018, 10:02:55 PM »

And by the same token, if India, Sri Lanka or Bangladesh or Pakistan for that matter(although I've watched them here last two tours and they played pretty well) tour over here especially with the short straw in May hand them the toss. Simply hand it to them....

England winning at Home and Pakistan as an example being virtually unbeatable in UAE or Lanka at home is getting all too predictable.

try it...what is there too lose. I'd rather see England pushed at home, it would be a better contest.

Vaughan doesn't think it a good idea is that it?  :) :)

Didnt England win every toss of the last tour of India and still get hammered.
I agree to scrap the toss, no that it would make much of a difference with West Indies

Have skysports lost rights for indias Home games?
Rather watch this test series than the crap theyre showing - Zim vs SA
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2018, 07:19:37 AM »

The only actual game of cricket on sky is the awful Sa vs zim white ball stuff


Why the hell arent they showing the India test match, englsnd warm ups if there really isnt any other SA/Aus state red ball cricket to watch. Sky sports really is crap now.. just lower league or random counties football and re-runs

Cost keeps going up tho for such high quality programming
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2018, 09:43:27 AM »

Didnt England win every toss of the last tour of India and still get hammered.
I agree to scrap the toss, no that it would make much of a difference with West Indies

Have skysports lost rights for indias Home games?
Rather watch this test series than the crap theyre showing - Zim vs SA

Your quite right 0-4 in India and we did win the toss each game. windies are a very poor side for sure.

I think rather than any one series to look at its the overall change to away matches for all nations for scrapping the toss.

It's certainly up for debate and there are a lot not in favour of it.

If you look at ways to make test cricket more attractive there is night cricket, changing it to a four day game, etc....

Personally I want 5 day test matches played during the day, one day and t20 cricket is more suited to the evening if it gets people into watch.

As pointed out by @RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie ....it needs to be competitive otherwise people will switch off..

Let's hope test cricket survives long term, we would be lost without it I think
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2018, 10:07:31 AM »

The only actual game of cricket on sky is the awful Sa vs zim white ball stuff


Why the hell arent they showing the India test match, englsnd warm ups if there really isnt any other SA/Aus state red ball cricket to watch. Sky sports really is crap now.. just lower league or random counties football and re-runs

Cost keeps going up tho for such high quality programming

Totally agree

Also getting tired with the number of womens matches being shown. Skys coverage is declining with each passing year.
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2018, 11:04:18 AM »

The only actual game of cricket on sky is the awful Sa vs zim white ball stuff


Why the hell arent they showing the India test match, englsnd warm ups if there really isnt any other SA/Aus state red ball cricket to watch. Sky sports really is crap now.. just lower league or random counties football and re-runs

Cost keeps going up tho for such high quality programming

I believe they've lost the rights to the India internationals and I assume they don't get much of a say in whether the England warm-ups are televised by the local broadcaster or not.
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2018, 06:43:04 PM »

Second test starts tonight in Hyderabad, Windies have confirmed that captain Jason Holder and pace spearhead Kemar Roach will play. Slow left arm tweaker Jomel Warrican looks likely to get a game as well

Somewhat surprisingly India opted not to give Mayank Agarwal a debut in place of Pujara/Kohli
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Re: India vs Windies
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2018, 11:11:43 AM »

Solid day for the Windies 295-7 at stumps after winning the toss. Surprisingly Roach wasn't selected at the last minute. Chase 98* and captain Holder got a fifty on his return. India rattled through 95 overs, debutant seamer Thakur got injured after 10 balls. So India down to one seamer and three spinners
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