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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2020, 10:20:01 PM »

Bat grading was never meant to be related to performance. Its purely cosmetic. You pay more for prettier looks (they are also more rare than uglier clefts). A grade 1 cleft can be a plank and a grade 5 bat can be a gun. There is no scam here - everyone should know that grading is all about looks and thats it. I personally like pretty clefts, so am willing to pay up for them. To each their own.
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2020, 11:14:05 PM »

I would be on board if a reputable smaller brand like B3 had a category for ugly low density performance bats that was priced somewhere around their 'two stripe' range.
Ultimately they probably know more than most players about the performance of each bat and there would be a market for 'hand selected' bats or some other fancy name
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2020, 12:17:12 AM »

Unfortunately, it is a no win situation for people - either way you are made to pay high prices either for cosmetics or ping.

If you want to save money, have someone who knows bats, hand pick for you an ugly stick (graded low - hence cheap) that pings. Bat prices are borderline criminal these days!
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2020, 08:20:10 AM »

Unfortunately, it is a no win situation for people - either way you are made to pay high prices either for cosmetics or ping.

If you want to save money, have someone who knows bats, hand pick for you an ugly stick (graded low - hence cheap) that pings. Bat prices are borderline criminal these days!

GM for me still have the monopoly on this value vs looks vs performance in the Sig range. U.K. Made, sub 140 and always on the ok side to some being amazing lookers.  To know how a bat will perform in its brand new state is impossible to tell. Until make makers make, knock in, match use for 5/7 games fully clean up and re-sell could you have any idea on the the true performance of a bat. But I for one dont go anywhere near we grade our bats on performance alone sales pitch

As for grading on performance its all marketing ploys to get the punter to part with there money. Same as this G1++ nonsense and other grades that dont exist.
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2020, 09:02:40 AM »

I think it's just the terminology which may confuse, as essentially anyone saying they 'grade on performance' is really saying they don't grade at all, as all bats will perform regardless of the look of the willow.

I don't have an issue either way. The buyer will make their decision and if dealing with a reputable company/person will get a bat which performs. It just might be they pay more than they would elsewhere for the same grade of willow. 

However I don't think anyone is being underhand. Grading can be confusing for a lot of people, even those who play the game, so in some ways this may actually help?

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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2020, 09:43:23 AM »

Kippax.

Please explain more / justify? I may have missed it but I see nothing on their website about this?
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2020, 10:04:36 AM »

@nivaga straight from the horses mouth on this very forum

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=43350.15

we sell all out bats on performance and not grade of wood
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2020, 11:24:24 AM »

I think it's just the terminology which may confuse, as essentially anyone saying they 'grade on performance' is really saying they don't grade at all, as all bats will perform regardless of the look of the willow.

I don't have an issue either way. The buyer will make their decision and if dealing with a reputable company/person will get a bat which performs. It just might be they pay more than they would elsewhere for the same grade of willow. 

However I don't think anyone is being underhand. Grading can be confusing for a lot of people, even those who play the game, so in some ways this may actually help?

You say that but lots of people have stories about expensive bats from good makers that turned out to be 'planks'. So maybe someone with enough experience could grade on performance? Or maybe it's all a mystery and noone could tell that it would turn out to be a plank.

I must say the only plank I've had so far was a cheap Slazenger KW from sports direct. First bat I ever bought after returning to cricket a couple of seasons back. A couple of times it sounded so bad out in the middle that team mates came on pitch to offer me a replacement for my 'broken' bat. I would challenge anyone to knock that one in and get it playing well.  :)
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2020, 11:34:27 AM »

Had a young lad take my bowling apart ,(not hard really), a couple of seasons ago with a sd Slazenger bat
Ruined my figures for the season
Im sure it was one of the white painted ones

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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2020, 11:38:16 AM »

Sure, and I'm not saying I didn't score a few boundaries with it. It just sounded and felt awful.
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2020, 12:24:44 PM »

Had a young lad take my bowling apart ,(not hard really), a couple of seasons ago with a sd Slazenger bat
Ruined my figures for the season
Im sure it was one of the white painted ones

Our No11 has a kook Kahuna 100 that came from SD sale for 13 I think i paid for it for him. He smashes it miles and its actually a decent bat. No idea what willow it is but its as good for him as a GN legend
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2020, 07:01:33 PM »

Maybe hes not a no 11 :)
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2020, 08:03:10 PM »

Ive never seen a pro cricketer use a bat made from an ugly piece of willow.
You've not looked very hard!
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2020, 08:11:14 PM »

You've not looked very hard!

Maybe it didn't look ugly on the telly because it had been bleached! ;)
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Re: Bats graded on performance
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2020, 08:22:34 PM »

Razzaq famously bludgeoned 109 against South Africa in Abu dhabi with a 4 grainer Boom Boom
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