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Re: Sky Sports Cricket
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2018, 09:41:19 PM »

Kids are just as committed nowadays though right? Nothings changed you said?

I think its always been the case that kids drop out of activities, but the rate of drop-outs has become unprecedented. Whereas it used to be that maybe 75% of kids would drop out, now its 95%. That's quite a big difference, that adds up over a few years.

When I was a kid, me and most of my mates not only played cricket, but also watched it on the tv and supported England. Being interested in cricket never had a stigma attached to it (at least not where I grew up in the midlands).

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« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2018, 09:55:21 PM »

So my opinion is wrong because its an opinion but your opinion is valid because you say that its backed by some professional studies.

OK then.


Yes. That's how it works. I have both significantly more direct experience working with kids in cricket AND the entire weight of academia on my side, you have a bunch of anecdotes.

You're not just wrong, you're beginning to look like,an arrogant and deluded idiot .
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« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2018, 09:57:44 PM »

I cant say I disagree with Jake as usual. From what I hear and see, attitudes are the biggest thing to have changed. We are not more time poor than say in 2000/2005 and there are no more or less people suddenly wanting to play win lose or 2020 ..

However, what has changed quite simply is each individual chooses to act in a certain way. We as a society are more agggessive than previously and this manifests itself in an increase in sledging. We have partners who are now less willing to tolerate being away every week and so attitudes change to mean player will happily miss games or even stop playing.

Each individual now has more choice than ever and so, clubs have had to accept that they need to offer each player more than they did in 2005 just to get them to play (feeds in to jakes story about demanding to get a bat and or bowl).

Do I think every player should get a game ? Yes.. why.. because its a hobby and is amateur sport so if you dont get a good game why on earth wouldnt you walk away and go to somewhere where you can (or leave the game).

Sledging is worse now and is putting kids and players off, people Quote football as being as bad but everyone loves footy right.. wrong.. that is also in terminal decline as a participation sport. Sure tv is strong but Saturday and Sunday league is dying.

Anyway, sky does a great job in what it shows but has declined massively in what it shows and filling it (like it has with football too) with crap to fill the gap isnt good. I do enjoy womens cricket but lets call a spade a spade.. its pretty dire quality and certainly wouldnt choose it over watching more mens test cricket.
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« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2018, 09:58:08 PM »

Kids are just as committed nowadays though right? Nothings changed you said?

Correct. Kids haven't changed, the level of fta coverage had changed, as it says quite clearly in my post.

Thanks for inadvertently further backing up my point.
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« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2018, 10:00:26 PM »

Yes. That's how it works. I have both significantly more direct experience working with kids in cricket AND the entire weight of academia on my side, you have a bunch of anecdotes.

You're not just wrong, you're beginning to look like,an arrogant and deluded idiot .

Everyones experience is equally valid because thats what they experience. Different parts of the county and even the level can make a massive difference to each persons unique experience.

Tbf, I wouldnt trust so called experts anyway.. its not exactly done anyone much good when experts lead reviews or commission reports.
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« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2018, 10:04:42 PM »

I cant say I disagree with Jake as usual. From what I hear and see, attitudes are the biggest thing to have changed. We are not more time poor than say in 2000/2005 and there are no more or less people suddenly wanting to play win lose or 2020 ..

However, what has changed quite simply is each individual chooses to act in a certain way. We as a society are more agggessive than previously and this manifests itself in an increase in sledging. We have partners who are now less willing to tolerate being away every week and so attitudes change to mean player will happily miss games or even stop playing.

Each individual now has more choice than ever and so, clubs have had to accept that they need to offer each player more than they did in 2005 just to get them to play (feeds in to jakes story about demanding to get a bat and or bowl).

Do I think every player should get a game ? Yes.. why.. because its a hobby and is amateur sport so if you dont get a good game why on earth wouldnt you walk away and go to somewhere where you can (or leave the game).

Sledging is worse now and is putting kids and players off, people Quote football as being as bad but everyone loves footy right.. wrong.. that is also in terminal decline as a participation sport. Sure tv is strong but Saturday and Sunday league is dying.

Anyway, sky does a great job in what it shows but has declined massively in what it shows and filling it (like it has with football too) with crap to fill the gap isnt good. I do enjoy womens cricket but lets call a spade a spade.. its pretty dire quality and certainly wouldnt choose it over watching more mens test cricket.

Maybe you just get sledged more. The leagues I play in are pretty friendly. Saw far more intimidation, aggression, violence etc back in the 90s.

Of course, violence as a whole has fallen dramatically across society. Just look at the crime stats. But never let the facts get in the way of a bit of ageist bigotry, eh?
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Re: Sky Sports Cricket
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2018, 10:19:25 PM »

Maybe you just get sledged more. The leagues I play in are pretty friendly. Saw far more intimidation, aggression, violence etc back in the 90s.

Of course, violence as a whole has fallen dramatically across society. Just look at the crime stats. But never let the facts get in the way of a bit of ageist bigotry, eh?

Lol

Disciplinary issues are way up compared to historical numbers
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Re: Sky Sports Cricket
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2018, 10:26:12 PM »

The last two pages have drifted off topic a lot I will unlock this tomorrow at some point
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