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Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« on: November 07, 2018, 01:14:35 PM »

Last season was my best since moving to Warwickshire after a 4 year break from cricket

However...

In nets and on Sundays my batting had massively improved from the previous 2 seasons

Yet on a Saturday I get I struggled the only time I performed anywhere near what I was in nets and Sunday was when the game was already gone.

Has anyone any tips of being able to perform in league matches rather than just fire flies and nets?

I think its fear of failure when it matters and a mindset issue
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 03:47:48 PM »

been thinking about this a little more and more about the type of innings i have played.

when i bat i like to hit the ball rather than just block whilst still playing proper cricket shots, a drive is better than a slog etc.

that being said in nets and sundays (again no real pressure) i will attack more balls than in league cricket.

on a Saturday i will block or leave more and try to not get out rather than look for runs. the bit I'm struggling with is why, can it just be down to not wanting to get out or is it a confidence matter or a complete mind set change that subconsciously changes!

any coaches out there that have experienced this? or any of you managed to get over something similar!

any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 04:18:10 PM »

No pressure
No consequence
You can hit 50 balls in a net and get out 4th ball but crunch the next 30 and come away thinking youre a gun.. fact is you due back in the hutch in a game
Sundays generally are way easier games as teams are weaker or bowl in random orders etc so you get generally way more filth to plunder without really trying

All adds up. I dont know many who dont plunder Sunday or friendly runs then on a Saturday struggle and wonder why . Sundays and friendlies are great for confidence or as a bat working on things but you cant take what people do really as people can easily avg 30+ Sundays and in reality.. are pretty crap potentially
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 04:24:38 PM »

been thinking about this a little more and more about the type of innings i have played.

when i bat i like to hit the ball rather than just block whilst still playing proper cricket shots, a drive is better than a slog etc.

that being said in nets and sundays (again no real pressure) i will attack more balls than in league cricket.

on a Saturday i will block or leave more and try to not get out rather than look for runs. the bit I'm struggling with is why, can it just be down to not wanting to get out or is it a confidence matter or a complete mind set change that subconsciously changes!

any coaches out there that have experienced this? or any of you managed to get over something similar!

any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated

I do the same though so its common. Saturday Ill defend or leave balls I know in a net I can crunch or work but as its a league game I take the % option. Tbh, its simply a choice. You either just let yourself bat and see what comes out or you go in and intentionally look to attack and hope it comes off. Each player and team and format will suit different styles. Most amauter is win lose now so will favour those who just walk out and crunch so given thats what you play, you could go with that. Unless you dont enjoy that style of play in which case dont
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 04:27:32 PM »

don't over think it Alex, that is the worse thing do to.

think about the external factors more than anything..... is it as simple as Sunday's are a lower standard than Saturday's etc....

everyone (well at least the majority) bat better and more care free in nets, because they don't care if they get out/ it doesn't matter etc....

i actually went through the season without having an actual net at practice, i find them completely pointless, you are more than likely batting on a surface that you won't play on on Saturday (in our club's case a very bouncy astro), facing bowlers that half the time are just trying stuff so it's not great practice, you don't face 6 different bowlers each in turn in a game, so why do it in practice etc... etc....

All season when i went to practice, i had a lot of very good throw downs or drills working on anything i needed to iron out that was bugging me - eg. my head started falling over halfway through the season.
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 04:43:54 PM »

Mindset is everything mate, particularly for the more aggressive batsman. Always look to score runs, it is what you're there to do after all!
From personal experience recently - I joined a new club in 2017, got given the no3 spot and I tried to bat like one; be responsible, make sure we don't lose early wickets, get set before taking any big shots on etc. Felt in good nick all year... scored absolutely bugger all.
2018 I managed to get myself opening the batting, first game chipped a longhop up in the air for a duck. Had a good angry walk round the boundary and decided I just needed to focus on each ball and back myself to play my own game, which is looking to hit the ball. The next game I got some loose balls early on and rather than trying to be 'responsible' I just hit them. Got about 20 off my first 8 balls and never looked back - tonned up and ended up averaging 40 for the season.

Don't know how directly applicable you'll find that to yourself but moral of the story? Make your batting about your strengths, if you're an aggressive player then you probably need to be looking to hit the ball. For me personally it's key to play my way rather than think about it - if I get a floaty one on the pads early on and I'm looking to hit it, I'll smack it away for a boundary very consistently. If I'm thinking about being 'responsible' and playing myself in etc then I'll try and nurdle it for one and probably chip it up in the air. Recognise what you're good at and look to play that way, if you're busy worrying about other things you'll make mistakes playing shots that don't suit you. Hope that makes some sense!
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 06:42:11 PM »

Cheers guys! Sounds like nets to feel good and just try and forget the fact its league cricket and relax!
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 06:50:55 PM »

Cheers guys! Sounds like nets to feel good and just try and forget the fact its league cricket and relax!

Nets are great if used properly. Most as its flat etc just play loads of shots rather than actually play how they will on a Saturday or just do specific work
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2018, 08:15:54 PM »

Having played at the same club as alex i can safely say the league cricket is a higher standard. A couple of things happen - firstly you get less balls to hit and secondly you end up searching for runs, instead of letting it come to you. Relax on a Sunday and a bad ball comes along, look for it on Saturday and you either snatch at the shot or chase a ball that isnt there. Its self imposed pressure rather than mindset as such.
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2018, 09:05:14 PM »

Having played at the same club as alex i can safely say the league cricket is a higher standard. A couple of things happen - firstly you get less balls to hit and secondly you end up searching for runs, instead of letting it come to you. Relax on a Sunday and a bad ball comes along, look for it on Saturday and you either snatch at the shot or chase a ball that isnt there. Its self imposed pressure rather than mindset as such.

I can relate to this though in slightly different circumstances. I score freely batting first and able to score at run a ball or close to it but when chasing and when particularly the asking rate is 6 or higher, I try to really grab those runs instead of playing the ball on merit and end up with lot of mistimed shots, etc., eventually either getting out cheaply or struggling with poor strike rate. Just amazing how much mindset can change your game.
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 09:38:11 AM »

A good option to help alleviate this problem is the good old out net.

Ive had coaches announce in advance that a session would be an out net and seen a lad drive over an hour to attend. He snicker it first ball and that was that, the coach said take your gear off youre out. He put a lot more value on his wicket after that

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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 06:28:13 PM »

A good option to help alleviate this problem is the good old out net.

Ive had coaches announce in advance that a session would be an out net and seen a lad drive over an hour to attend. He snicker it first ball and that was that, the coach said take your gear off youre out. He put a lot more value on his wicket after that

These nets are great if the training strip is bowler friendly and you have the bowling to offer a challenge. However, whenever trying to get amateurs to buy into it, sadly it usually fails once one or two dominate for ages (maybe skill, maybe a lack of bowling) and others either dont get a bat or keep getting out .. slowly numbers dwindle etc

It is a good way to get people to not just keep hitting through the line and thinking all is good
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 07:17:20 PM »

We had a ten mins round or out net once. Good fun for most, but the odd grumble. Think I'd rather work on a scenario with one bowler, so you get your time, and against one bowler you've a two over chase on. You lose your chase you buy him a beer after our whatever other punishment takes your fancy. We had one coach once give us cones as gaps to hit, we got enough of them and he'd pay our subs for the next game. The targets were always a bit too high for the likes of us though.
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 10:46:12 PM »

I'll be a little controversial here - I know a lot of people love the idea but the majority of the time the 'out net' promotes negative cricket. Blokes want their net so they just block and leave, noone learns anything, no consequences because they're in a net. Take that approach into a game and that's when you see players rendered shotless, pressure ratcheting up leading to the inevitable (No Swearing Please) shot. Focus should always be on scoring runs, particularly in limited overs club games - it's what you're there to do! Learning not to take risks doesn't help, learning how to score safely is the key.
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Re: Form - nets and friendlies vs league
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 11:01:29 PM »

Great points ... for batsman ( people batting) .bowlers however don't tend to practice new deliveries.. they bowl off 18 yards and bang it in ... uber useful on an April wicket






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