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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #390 on: January 18, 2019, 01:50:02 PM »

I look at that scorecard and wonder if we're playing ODIs in the 90s again

Exactly this.

250-275 simply doesn't cut it anymore, you have to be scoring 300, pretty much where ever you are.

lets not escape facts this Aussie side are woeful. yes they won the 1st ODI, but Dhoni and Kartik had shockers and India should have chased it.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #391 on: January 18, 2019, 02:49:12 PM »

Dhoni's record this series highlights the difference between reality and record on paper. Ist game Dhoni got lucky when umpire gave him out otherwise the hole he dug himself in, he would not have been able to finish. Second game, DK saved him. Third game, Aussie low score saved him, still it needed Jadhav to score at 100+ SR otherwise the game would have gone last ball and who knows the result. That Ind took 49.2 overs to chase 234 is not great news though a win is a win. When teams score 300+ or when Ind bat first which they haven't done this series, effect of Dhoni will be out. However, Dhoni fans are all gaga over 193 Avg this series, all not outs etc. etc.

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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #392 on: January 18, 2019, 04:52:44 PM »

Dhoni's record this series highlights the difference between reality and record on paper. Ist game Dhoni got lucky when umpire gave him out otherwise the hole he dug himself in, he would not have been able to finish. Second game, DK saved him. Third game, Aussie low score saved him, still it needed Jadhav to score at 100+ SR otherwise the game would have gone last ball and who knows the result. That Ind took 49.2 overs to chase 234 is not great news though a win is a win. When teams score 300+ or when Ind bat first which they haven't done this series, effect of Dhoni will be out. However, Dhoni fans are all gaga over 193 Avg this series, all not outs etc. etc.

Yes, how dare he inflate his average for the series by being not out in a successful run chase in two of the three games...
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #393 on: January 18, 2019, 05:45:52 PM »

Opinions are highly divided on Dhoni in all discussions everywhere. He is a legend but some people like me think Pant can add more value.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #394 on: January 18, 2019, 05:50:31 PM »

Opinions are highly divided on Dhoni in all discussions everywhere. He is a legend but some people like me think Pant can add more value.

I think if you bat Dhoni at 4 it is the right thing to do, he takes a lot longer to get going these days, so any lower in the order and it could be trouble.

It would be interesting if both Dhoni and Pant played? Is Pant a better option at 5,6 or 7 than the others maybe?
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #395 on: January 18, 2019, 05:58:53 PM »

I think if you bat Dhoni at 4 it is the right thing to do, he takes a lot longer to get going these days, so any lower in the order and it could be trouble.

It would be interesting if both Dhoni and Pant played? Is Pant a better option at 5,6 or 7 than the others maybe?

There are other people slotted in those roles.
Like Rayyadu at 4 as he has been good form averaging more than 45+
Karthik/Kedar at 6 who are consistently finishing the games
Pandya/Jadeja at 7 who can hit and bowl 5+ overs consistently

Only way Pant can come in as is WK/Batsman and there is no one who will take the gutsy call of dropping Dhoni. Dhoni has to go on his own and he looks like he won't till the world cup.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #396 on: January 18, 2019, 06:55:43 PM »

Exactly this.

250-275 simply doesn't cut it anymore, you have to be scoring 300, pretty much where ever you are.

lets not escape facts this Aussie side are woeful. yes they won the 1st ODI, but Dhoni and Kartik had shockers and India should have chased it.
I think reason for need of scoring close to or in excess of 300 is due to shorter boundaries worldwide.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #397 on: January 18, 2019, 07:04:10 PM »

Dhoni's record this series highlights the difference between reality and record on paper. Ist game Dhoni got lucky when umpire gave him out otherwise the hole he dug himself in, he would not have been able to finish. Second game, DK saved him. Third game, Aussie low score saved him, still it needed Jadhav to score at 100+ SR otherwise the game would have gone last ball and who knows the result. That Ind took 49.2 overs to chase 234 is not great news though a win is a win. When teams score 300+ or when Ind bat first which they haven't done this series, effect of Dhoni will be out. However, Dhoni fans are all gaga over 193 Avg this series, all not outs etc. etc.
You could argue if Dhoni was saved by umpire or kartik or Dhoni saved match on 2 occasions. I will certainly say Dhoni saved both games from losing and DK and Jadhav won games around him. Dhoni gave them one strong end where they could afford to play aggressive to win. Thats just my opinion
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #398 on: January 18, 2019, 07:32:54 PM »

No doubt Dhoni played important knocks in last two games while his knock in first game ruled out possibility of a win though it might have reduced margin of loss. However, the doubt is if his batting is going to be an issue in WC against good sides or when India bat first and are looking to post a good total and he comes in at number 4 or 5 with several overs to spare.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #399 on: January 18, 2019, 08:33:38 PM »

Some of the comments about Dhoni do have the feel of the What have the Romans ever done for us sketch form the life of Brian.  I am not sure how he can be criticised in this match for only chasing down the score that Australia set
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #400 on: January 18, 2019, 08:45:09 PM »

Incredibly he still averages 50 despite not being as good as he use to. The criticism is at times he doesnt show any intent and blocks maidens for no reason resulting in unnecessary pressure.

Hes probably past his best and lost the power game but still needs to show more intent at times. Hes got far too much power to be kicked out of the side for Pant.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #401 on: February 27, 2019, 10:15:21 AM »

Excited for today's T20 match. Hope India will win this one!
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #402 on: February 27, 2019, 11:25:35 AM »

anyone know what channel its on? cant see it on sky sports or BT sport?
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #403 on: February 27, 2019, 11:43:52 AM »

Not on any of those - will be on some random Indian channel would be my best guess...couldn't find the first game on Sky
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #404 on: February 27, 2019, 04:49:56 PM »

Glenn Maxwell destroys the Indians at Kohlis palace in Bangalore, a dazzling century by the big show
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