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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1005 on: February 12, 2019, 03:58:17 PM »

Wood got shay hope out then by merely being mark wood.

Wasnt an exceptional ball, didnt bounce high. But as it was short of a length. Hope crapped himself jumped and just chucked his bat out there.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1006 on: February 12, 2019, 05:54:16 PM »

careless running by Hetmyer  paid the price.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1007 on: February 12, 2019, 06:46:29 PM »

Interesting stat.


Since buttlers recall. Only pujara and kohli have more innings of 100 plus balls than buttler.

Pujara 9innings
Kohli 8
Buttler 7


Add to that buttlers scored more 50s than any other English batsman since hes recall, and youve got to admit, it was a good recall.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1008 on: February 12, 2019, 07:00:40 PM »

Buttler's been great since coming back in, had the confidence to think and adapt to the situation better than anyone else in the side. If he could just convert a few more of the fifties into tons, though.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1009 on: February 12, 2019, 07:34:04 PM »

Trouble is, there isn't any mention of anything like that in the laws of the game. Before we all climb on the the high horse it's worth bearing in mind that homosexuality is illegal currently or until very recently in Dubai (where the ICC is based), Trinidad (where Gabriel is from), St Lucia (where the game is being played), and in 7/12 of the test nations. Probably hard to expect much more severe than a warning.

My mistake then, I'd read that homophobic language was covered by the racism abuse law. Regardless of whether it's illegal in certain countries though, imo it's not acceptable in the game, which is global. Get where you're coming from tho.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1010 on: February 12, 2019, 07:36:40 PM »

Great spell by Anderson earlier from what I saw. He'll be sorely missed when he retires.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1011 on: February 12, 2019, 08:02:02 PM »

Buttler's been great since coming back in, had the confidence to think and adapt to the situation better than anyone else in the side. If he could just convert a few more of the fifties into tons, though.

He has been excellent, watching him bat in tests is the reason I don't buy 'this is the way I play' because he of all the batsman has adapted to the pitch and the game situation.

If he can do it surely others can? Or is that too simplistic?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1012 on: February 12, 2019, 08:46:41 PM »

All rosey again - stunning victory etc against a side who had already won the series and was missing their best player.
Dead rubber wickets and runs when the series is lost

Great series win for windies
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1013 on: February 12, 2019, 09:14:51 PM »

He has been excellent, watching him bat in tests is the reason I don't buy 'this is the way I play' because he of all the batsman has adapted to the pitch and the game situation.

If he can do it surely others can? Or is that too simplistic?

To save typing it all again I'll just quote myself.

I think all this talk of Buttler's "natural game" is a bit of confusion around his one day batting.

If you've watched him in first class cricket you'll know he does rein it in a fair bit. His career strike rate in red ball cricket is a touch over 60. While that's healthy I think it shows he comes in down the order and hits bad balls from tiring bowlers. He simply isn't a shot a ball player in the longer format like he is in white ball cricket

As nobody actually watches Championship cricket I understand why people think of Buttler as an explosive player. However, while he does adapt to suit the pitch and situation, he doesn't go into red ball games trying to biff it like it's a One Day game, contrary to the popular belief on here.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1014 on: February 12, 2019, 10:22:47 PM »

I put more weight on a player having the technique and mental toughness to score runs at the highest levels rather than whether they are a considered a specialist  in a particular format.  The best batsmen will score runs whatever the format.

England showed good resilience to win the test.  Having been put in on another sporting wicket and having lost early wickets and with the series gone, it would have been easy to fold in the manner of some of the recent tours to Australia, but they stuck together as a group.  If only we could find a top 3, this would be a very decent side with the options available
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1015 on: February 12, 2019, 10:44:34 PM »

As nobody actually watches Championship cricket

A myth.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1016 on: February 12, 2019, 10:54:40 PM »

All rosey again - stunning victory etc against a side who had already won the series and was missing their best player.
Dead rubber wickets and runs when the series is lost

Great series win for windies

You are fast turning into Gerry NZ
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1017 on: February 12, 2019, 11:03:13 PM »

A myth.

Quite.  The weird thing is, both times I have seen Buttler in the Championship, he has been bumped up the order to get on with things.  Small sample size, I appreciate!
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1018 on: February 12, 2019, 11:04:01 PM »

If only we could find a top 3, this would be a very decent side with the options available

Could not agree more. The fact we've been competitive with these key positions missing bodes well for when we do find someone.

Id persevere with Burns for the Ashes, he deserves a home series after weight of runs in CC and debuting overseas.

The other two spots Id leave for whoever does well in the Championship season before the Ashes. But definitely not Jennings!

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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1019 on: February 12, 2019, 11:06:00 PM »

So what is everyone Top 3 for the Ashes? Would be tempted to go Burns, Roy, Bell...a bit harsh on Denly perhaps but if he wasnt dropped in the 2md innings Of the test just finished,it would have been 4 innings without a score.
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