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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2019, 08:37:28 AM »

Don't even get me started on round handles... poorer for playing cricket with in every possible way.

Not if you have small hands which when you use oval handles your bottom hand gets forced off the handle  playing a shot even small ovals do this.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2019, 08:52:10 AM »


I am used to oval handles now so i prefer them.

I tried using a round handle and with offside shots the bat was twisting in my hand and i was sort of pushing my bottom hand into the shot.

Cuts , pulls, flicks are all okay with a round handle.

I feel all the drives, on the other hand, give better power/control with an oval handle.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2019, 09:21:18 AM »

Not if you have small hands which when you use oval handles your bottom hand gets forced off the handle  playing a shot even small ovals do this.
I have youth sized hands and love an oval handle, even rectangular and I so dont agree with this. I grip very loosely with the bottom hand with only the tips of my fingers and thumb on the handle.
Ultimately there is no right answer, its what you personally prefer.
Its no different from saying light bats are better than heavy ones.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2019, 09:36:33 AM »

Oval all the way - a round handle just feels too thin and i feel i have zero control of my shots. If I purchase a bat with a round handle (on ebay sometimes without knowing the handle shape) i always mod the handle to a oval handle with tape etc
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2019, 08:21:47 PM »

Remember Adam Gilchrist? He used a very thick oval handle to 1. Loosen his bottom hand grip and 2. Stop the bat from twisting. Unless you are a very-very wristy player e.g. Kohli today, azar, dravid, laxman in the past, or you arent belting Yorkers for sixes like Dhoni using wristy shots, you dont need a round bottom hand.

I personally feel that a round handle naturally fits well in the human hand. The grip and hold is a lot more easy and comfortable. The bat is a lot easy and simple to maneuver with a round handle as per the anatomy of a human hand.

Many other players may find oval or semi oval handle better. Which is all good.

My question is, if I remember correctly, it used to be round handles only.
And the oval or semi oval came in as a marketing ploy in the name of innovation. Folks then slowly started to pick the idea.

The idea is, it helps stop the twist.

My argument is, if it helps stop the twist then it may also create some hindrance when you actually DO WANT to slightly twist the bat and get the right angle to play the intended stroke.

But also and more curiously, if the bat has a rubber grip and you are wearing gloves where the leathers in the palms provides some excellent traction, why would the bat twist so much in your hands that you need an oval handle?
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2019, 09:26:59 PM »

Doesn't kohli use a (thin) oval handle?
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2019, 09:36:30 PM »

That's quite true but I believe that has happened quite recently (within past two years) and from the looks of it, he uses semi-oval. Many Indian players have changed to oval handles nowadays and many Indian manufacturers are also producing bats with semi-oval handles. Obviously, it is a feel/comfort thing as well e.g. Sachin wasn't a very wristy player but he always used round handles but if you tank to batting coaches and knowledgable bat makers (legendary JM), they will always say that oval handle is far better than round. What more, I have realized that it doesn't break/lose power as quickly as a round handle does upon toe-ending/mistiming the balls simply because it is far stronger near the splice to bottom hand area.

Doesn't kohli use a (thin) oval handle?
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2019, 01:53:42 PM »

Ever since i started using an oval handle bat i have noticed a lot more control over my batting and a drastic decrease in unwanted cross bat shots. I am naturally left handed and it is my bottom habd while batting as well. Oval handle gives me more control over when my bottom hand is needed for powerful shots

Seriously, what does the shape of handle got anything to do with the decision of playing or not playing a cross bat shot?
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2019, 01:56:25 PM »

Haha, imagine how much better Bradman, Pollock, Sobers, Richards,Lara, Kohli and co wouldve been if they used an oval handle.!!

Haha. Someone with an oval handle has to break Bradman and Sachins records to prove your point.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2019, 03:08:41 PM »

Seriously, what does the shape of handle got anything to do with the decision of playing or not playing a cross bat shot?

Do u remember Gilchrist putting a squash ball in his bottom hand glove while batting in 2007 World Cup? You start playing across the line when your bottom hand dominates. Thick oval handle reduces that grip and hence naturally you play straighter.

I also feel that an oval handle helps me place the ball better by not twisting so much in my hands and it also allows me to have thin edges which of course helps with keeping the weight of the bat down.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2019, 03:42:08 PM »

Do u remember Gilchrist putting a squash ball in his bottom hand glove while batting in 2007 World Cup? You start playing across the line when your bottom hand dominates. Thick oval handle reduces that grip and hence naturally you play straighter.

I also feel that an oval handle helps me place the ball better by not twisting so much in my hands and it also allows me to have thin edges which of course helps with keeping the weight of the bat down.

hmmm ... so what you are saying is this.

In your back-lift when you intend to play a cross bat shot, (lets say a pull or even a sweep) the toe of the bat points towards and point fielder and face of the bat is facing the bowler, now you make the swing, and the face of the bat twists towards sky or towards the ground if you play with a round handle? And it won't do so if you play with an oval handle?

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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2019, 04:21:33 PM »

hmmm ... so what you are saying is this.

In your back-lift when you intend to play a cross bat shot, (lets say a pull or even a sweep) the toe of the bat points towards and point fielder and face of the bat is facing the bowler, now you make the swing, and the face of the bat twists towards sky or towards the ground if you play with a round handle? And it won't do so if you play with an oval handle?

In your cross batted shots, your bottom hand is going to dominate any way. Is the difference between hitting an on drive vs hitting the same ball at the cow corner unintentionally where an oval handle (Bottom hand) helps. It doesnt let you use your wrists that easily.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2019, 05:26:23 PM »

Its all subjective. My bottom hand shots actually improved after switching to oval. Dont know why, but maybe being a tennis player all my life (hence used to oval feel in bottom hand) is why it worked for me.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2019, 01:17:04 AM »

Haha. Someone with an oval handle has to break Bradman and Sachins records to prove your point.
No point made. Just having a chuckle. Whatever works really. Oval or round personal choice in my book.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2019, 05:57:03 AM »

No point made. Just having a chuckle. Whatever works really. Oval or round personal choice in my book.

Yes, that's true.
100% personal choice and I fully support it.

I just wanted to see what are the various reasons? And it was for my own knowledge.

Everyone is free to use whatever handle shape works for them.
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