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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #150 on: March 15, 2019, 02:55:17 PM »


Your league must be very different to mine. I can't remember the last time I heard serious sledging in a game. At worst you might get a slightly sarcastic remark about the purity of your technique.

Northants wasnt very good, wepl is worse sadly.

My father stopped coming to watch as he said the games just felt so aggressive and unpleasant to play in. Kinda says it all
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #151 on: March 15, 2019, 02:59:44 PM »


Well yeah, I do all those things too, and I'm sure most players do, but isn't contradictory with the stance that a mankad is no different from a stumping or from running a batsman out who hasn't grounded his bat behind the line in normal play. Its just another perfectly fair and valid way to catch out a dozy batsman and gain a wicket. Cricket is a game of concentration, if you lose your concentration, you lose your wicket.

Would I mankad a 13 year old in a friendly game? No, not even with a warning. I wouldn't stump one either, and I probably wouldn't appeal for an lbw.

Would I encourage one 13 year old to mankad another 13 year old in an U13s league fixture with no warning required? Definitely - its a league game, they need to learn what is and isn't acceptable, and if we want to get rid of this daft old-fashioned idea that a mankad is somehow unsporting (which we do!), now is a good time to teach that lesson.

Fair enough, I completely appreciate that different opinions and interpretations exist. Allow me to propose a compromise:

Imagine you and I are captains or coaches. When we walk out to toss up, you say to me, 'Justin, please understand that should your batsman back up too far, too early, we will Mankad him without a warning on the pitch. I will also be advising the umpires before play begins.'

This, for me would be both fair, and entirely within the Spirit of the Game. I would let my team know, and there would be no hard feelings if the event occurred.
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #152 on: March 15, 2019, 04:38:10 PM »

Fair enough, I completely appreciate that different opinions and interpretations exist. Allow me to propose a compromise:

Imagine you and I are captains or coaches. When we walk out to toss up, you say to me, 'Justin, please understand that should your batsman back up too far, too early, we will Mankad him without a warning on the pitch. I will also be advising the umpires before play begins.'

This, for me would be both fair, and entirely within the Spirit of the Game. I would let my team know, and there would be no hard feelings if the event occurred.

Better still if the leagues declare it as an acceptable form of dismissal to avoid any controversy. Mankad rule applies, so back up at your own risk. Period.
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #153 on: March 15, 2019, 04:46:38 PM »

Let the batsman know the bowler is watching tell him to knock the bails off with the batsman out of his crease but don't appeal.
If the batter still advances after that  knock the bails off and appeal  no excuses he's had his warning and still trying it on.
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #154 on: March 15, 2019, 09:47:10 PM »

Better still if the leagues declare it as an acceptable form of dismissal to avoid any controversy. Mankad rule applies, so back up at your own risk. Period.

Our league pretty much did this on their website before the 2018 season with a reminder that the wording had changed. As I said previously we only experienced one in the T20 cup but Id be interested to know how many occurred over the season
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #155 on: May 01, 2019, 01:08:26 PM »

Hi, it's been a while since the end of our season, but I mentioned somewhere that I'd report how it panned out.

I had a discussion with the team at training about the Mankad.  I'd taught them all to back up correctly previously, and I don't think any of them were aware at the time, when the one opposition batsman in particular was taking advantage.  Told them about warnings, how to correctly execute a Mankad.  My stance on warnings at the time was to clearly warn the opposition coach before the match, and let him deal with the information as he saw fit.  I think it was only a couple weeks later the Buttler/Ashwin debacle popped up, so it was quite topical at the time!

As it turned out, we never met either team with the players with 'questionable' backing up, so the issue didn't come up, but it will still be there waiting for us next year.
As some of you have suggested, I think I'll clarify things at the Association pre season meeting, and see what happens from there.

Again, thanks to everyone for your contributions to what I thought was a healthy discussion.
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #156 on: May 01, 2019, 01:31:17 PM »

2 games into my season and already had someone try and do an Ashwin without a warning to the batter, lots of laughing as the batter at the bowlers end was level with the umpire at the time lol.
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Re: The Mankad - opinions?
« Reply #157 on: May 01, 2019, 05:55:41 PM »

2 games into my season and already had someone try and do an Ashwin without a warning to the batter, lots of laughing as the batter at the bowlers end was level with the umpire at the time lol.

No attempts in 5 games as yet but 5 warnings as batsmen are still leaving their crease early (both our side and oppos). It seems to make a difference as some people are not stealing yards as its becoming clear you can be run out
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