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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2019, 08:37:28 PM »

Poor attitude to just read the clickbait headline and not the full article

Indeed, and having read the full article this morning I was unimpressed by his attitude.  Selection has nothing to do with him and all players have to accept that England has a competitive pool of players to select from and you have to earn selection rather than feeling that you are entitled to be there
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2019, 10:13:26 AM »

no archer,

morgan
ali
bairstow
buttler
T curran
denly
hales
plunkett
rashid
root
roy
stokes
willey
woakes
wood

i think plunkett is a lucky boy! id have taken archer over him, although that may change following the ODIs pre-world cup
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2019, 10:16:00 AM »

squadf for pakistan ODIs:

as above but with Archer and Jordan as well
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2019, 10:17:52 AM »

no archer,

morgan
ali
bairstow
buttler
T curran
denly
hales
plunkett
rashid
root
roy
stokes
willey
woakes
wood

i think plunkett is a lucky boy! id have taken archer over him, although that may change following the ODIs pre-world cup

If Archer performs it will change, you only have to hear the tone in Ed Smith - they are leaving it open to pick him.

In line with ICC regulations, we have to name a preliminary squad of 15 for the ICC Mens Cricket World Cup before April 23. However, all 17 players named in the Royal London ODIs against Pakistan can stake a claim to be in the final 15-man squad, finalised at the end of that series.

The selection panel has been impressed with Jofra Archers performances in domestic and franchise cricket. He is a very talented and exciting cricketer."

As i said in a previous post, Morgan wants to look at him as a captain etc....
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2019, 10:21:19 AM »

If Archer performs it will change, you only have to hear the tone in Ed Smith - they are leaving it open to pick him.

“In line with ICC regulations, we have to name a preliminary squad of 15 for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup before April 23. However, all 17 players named in the Royal London ODIs against Pakistan can stake a claim to be in the final 15-man squad, finalised at the end of that series.

“The selection panel has been impressed with Jofra Archer’s performances in domestic and franchise cricket. He is a very talented and exciting cricketer."

As i said in a previous post, Morgan wants to look at him as a captain etc....

yes looks that way....this is probably the right way to do it....I think like lots of others Archer will make the final squad. It's pro sport at the end of the day-someone will miss out if England get Archer in, that is the nature of selection in crunch tournaments,which this most certainly is.
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2019, 10:37:57 AM »

Yes i think we have been lucky enough to have the full Pakistan series as warm ups before we need to name the final squad, so Morgan can see Archer up close as a captain etc.... and against the others who would not get selected.

It also give more time for us to assess how 'injured' Woakes is.
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2019, 11:18:16 AM »

I can't believe it - the ECB have managed this situation well.

he comes in, bowls rockets, the squad get to know him and then they finalise him in the squad. easy work!
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2019, 11:41:57 AM »

haha heaven help us the selectors get right

some of us wont have anything to post on here if it carries on   :)
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2019, 12:58:32 PM »

The selectors have named the 15 to be loyal to them, as they have worked hard to make England the No1 ODI side over the last couple of years.
Unless Archer has 2 nightmare matches, then I'll be surprised if they don't include Archer in the final cut!
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2019, 04:08:09 PM »

Good to see Plunkett performing at domestic level before the tournament.
7 overs 0-67 today :o
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2019, 05:38:58 PM »

After alls said and done - I think the selectors have gone about this the right way.

Thats being said, Ill be very shocked if Archers not in the squad come the final squad

Think Plunkett, Willey or Wood will be the man to miss out
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2019, 06:48:30 PM »




In line with ICC regulations, we have to name a preliminary squad of 15 for the ICC Mens Cricket World Cup before April 23. However, all 17 players named in the Royal London ODIs against Pakistan can stake a claim to be in the final 15-man squad, finalised at the end of that series.

Whats the point of picking 15 then if you can change it? Might as well pick 17 with two to be omitted.

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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2019, 09:17:23 PM »

Can't see that Woakes could possibly be under threat given he's been our first choice seamer over the last several years?

Daft not to pick Archer in my view. 1-10 pick themselves and 11 is probably now Wood. Hales as spare bat plus Denly/Dawson leaves 2 spots. Incumbent contenders are Willey and Curran, both specialists in their 5 overs at the end of the innings but never complete 10 overs. Given Archer covers opening swing, pace for the middle overs and death bowling, how could you not pick him ahead of one of those? The 'tight-knit squad', 'these are the players who got us here' type arguments look pretty daft when Tom Curran's only played 13 ODIs and Denly/Dawson even less. Unless Archer is poor against Ireland/Pakistan then he's an obvious pick.
Regardless of Archer woakes  looking back at the last 2 ODI series is no longer the first choice seamer his place is under threat now he's sorted his run up and if he can stay fit from Mark Wood also his bowling has  not been in recent series  consistent. Also Gurney Curran  and Archer were the seamers  bought for the 2019 IPL  series whereas woakes who had been sold previously for big bucks remained unsold. As the squad being tight  that's not the case nine of the squad are nailed on but are lacking a 90 mph bowler who is not a one trick Pony.
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2019, 10:03:56 PM »

Regardless of Archer woakes  looking back at the last 2 ODI series is no longer the first choice seamer his place is under threat now he's sorted his run up and if he can stay fit from Mark Wood also his bowling has  not been in recent series  consistent. Also Gurney Curran  and Archer were the seamers  bought for the 2019 IPL  series whereas woakes who had been sold previously for big bucks remained unsold. As the squad being tight  that's not the case nine of the squad are nailed on but are lacking a 90 mph bowler who is not a one trick Pony.

You are lying to yourself. Woakes is the first seamer on the teamsheet.
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Re: world cup selection
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2019, 10:30:26 PM »

The grumpy old git continues to bash Woakes
Woakes gets in ahead of at least Curran/ Plunkett/ Willey and probably wood as well
So what if he didnt get an ipl gig? Morgan went unsold too but I doubt youre suggesting leaving him out
A seam attack of stokes Woakes archer and wood is better than any other combination
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