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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2019, 09:09:59 AM »

Personally, I think hes proving to be everything English professional cricket really doesnt need at this time

Its happened in the past with players, its human nature,,,,but with the amount of scrutiny these days afforded to those in the public eye,,,the blokes a complete tool.

He needs to grow up, accept the fact hes chosen to be in this position and accept whatever help is afforded to him, and come back and EARN the right to play for his country
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2019, 09:53:09 AM »

Personally, I think hes proving to be everything English professional cricket really doesnt need at this time

Its happened in the past with players, its human nature,,,,but with the amount of scrutiny these days afforded to those in the public eye,,,the blokes a complete tool.

He needs to grow up, accept the fact hes chosen to be in this position and accept whatever help is afforded to him, and come back and EARN the right to play for his country

From a psychological point of view this is interesting I guess. But I am concerned for his mental health now- especially with people who dont know him jumping all over him. The press, county management, England management, players- and now us.
 Im not an idiot either- Hales has himself admitted to having made  mediocredecisions consistently over a period of time- it sounds like the penny might be dropping, but it could be too late for him now, given the timing


I take no enjoyment from this saga whatsoever. What I dont like is when people take a kind of pleasure in other peoples misfortune.

Hales only plays white ball- he placed his eggs in one basket (his choice) After making the decision to go white ball only- things have gone pretty pear-shaped for him- Much of that is his own making granted.
Its a World Cup year. He knows he has messed up and is probably struggling to come to terms with it.
Maybe- maybe- he is self-medicating to numb the pain? Its pure speculation. Being in the papers for the wrong reasons will make it ten times worse.
To me from the outside, it looks like Hales is on a downward spiral. The timing cant be much worse though, with the World Cup round the corner. Hales is 30 years old- he should be at his peak as a professional cricketer.

Will he be able to sort himself out in a few days? Who knows. He probably wont play unless someone gets injured.
Hales also lost his place after the fracas- Stokes got his place back- Hales probably thinks thats unfair. Luckily for Stokes, he appears untouchable- despite being pretty average recently.

I can also understand us as England fans getting angry and upset with our players.


This is an unwelcome distraction from what can still be a great summer for English cricket. Time will tell- fingers crossed.
This summer is going to be full of great drama!

The World Cup- on home soil with England as favourites. The competition is full of sides who can beat anyone on their day.
Then there is The Ashes- and the return of Smith and Warner.

Hopefully the focus will be on the cricket.

I for one will back our side 100%- always!
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2019, 10:10:53 AM »

From a psychological point of view this is interesting I guess. But I am concerned for his mental health now- especially with people who dont know him jumping all over him. The press, county management, England management, players- and now us.
 Im not an idiot either- Hales has himself admitted to having made  mediocredecisions consistently over a period of time- it sounds like the penny might be dropping, but it could be too late for him now, given the timing


I take no enjoyment from this saga whatsoever. What I dont like is when people take a kind of pleasure in other peoples misfortune.

Hales only plays white ball- he placed his eggs in one basket (his choice) After making the decision to go white ball only- things have gone pretty pear-shaped for him- Much of that is his own making granted.
Its a World Cup year. He knows he has messed up and is probably struggling to come to terms with it.
Maybe- maybe- he is self-medicating to numb the pain? Its pure speculation. Being in the papers for the wrong reasons will make it ten times worse.
To me from the outside, it looks like Hales is on a downward spiral. The timing cant be much worse though, with the World Cup round the corner. Hales is 30 years old- he should be at his peak as a professional cricketer.

Will he be able to sort himself out in a few days? Who knows. He probably wont play unless someone gets injured.
Hales also lost his place after the fracas- Stokes got his place back- Hales probably thinks thats unfair. Luckily for Stokes, he appears untouchable- despite being pretty average recently.

I can also understand us as England fans getting angry and upset with our players.


This is an unwelcome distraction from what can still be a great summer for English cricket. Time will tell- fingers crossed.
This summer is going to be full of great drama!

The World Cup- on home soil with England as favourites. The competition is full of sides who can beat anyone on their day.
Then there is The Ashes- and the return of Smith and Warner.

Hopefully the focus will be on the cricket.

I for one will back our side 100%- always!

In other words you're calling a spade a 'hand held gardening utensil'.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2019, 06:52:25 PM »

Tough one really for me. The green eyes envious monster thinks he is in a position I would love to be in, to be playing a game I love and being paid a kings ransom as well. But he will no doubt have given up lots in the past to be in this position and he is as human as any of us and can make mistakes just like us but we only get judges by friends and family whereas Hales has that plus the worlds cricket fans.

If its substance abuse its wrong but he isnt the first to become addicted to something and hope he can get help and wont be judged long term and can rebuild his career and then maybe help up and coming players as I know the ECB work hard on supporting up and coming players adjust to fame and fortune.
If its adultery than again its totally wrong but it happens all the time and just hope there are no children involved and both parties move on to the next stage in there lives.

For sure though england are a better squad with a fit and mentally fit Alex Hales in the ranks than without him
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2019, 07:02:26 PM »

From a psychological point of view this is interesting I guess. But I am concerned for his mental health now- especially with people who dont know him jumping all over him. The press, county management, England management, players- and now us.
 Im not an idiot either- Hales has himself admitted to having made  mediocredecisions consistently over a period of time- it sounds like the penny might be dropping, but it could be too late for him now, given the timing


I take no enjoyment from this saga whatsoever. What I dont like is when people take a kind of pleasure in other peoples misfortune.

Hales only plays white ball- he placed his eggs in one basket (his choice) After making the decision to go white ball only- things have gone pretty pear-shaped for him- Much of that is his own making granted.
Its a World Cup year. He knows he has messed up and is probably struggling to come to terms with it.
Maybe- maybe- he is self-medicating to numb the pain? Its pure speculation. Being in the papers for the wrong reasons will make it ten times worse.
To me from the outside, it looks like Hales is on a downward spiral. The timing cant be much worse though, with the World Cup round the corner. Hales is 30 years old- he should be at his peak as a professional cricketer.

Will he be able to sort himself out in a few days? Who knows. He probably wont play unless someone gets injured.
Hales also lost his place after the fracas- Stokes got his place back- Hales probably thinks thats unfair. Luckily for Stokes, he appears untouchable- despite being pretty average recently.

I can also understand us as England fans getting angry and upset with our players.


This is an unwelcome distraction from what can still be a great summer for English cricket. Time will tell- fingers crossed.
This summer is going to be full of great drama!

The World Cup- on home soil with England as favourites. The competition is full of sides who can beat anyone on their day.
Then there is The Ashes- and the return of Smith and Warner.

Hopefully the focus will be on the cricket.

I for one will back our side 100%- always!

Just for the record, Hales 'self medicating' isn't a new thing.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2019, 08:54:02 PM »

Leachy it sounds like you have a rap sheet of Hales indiscretions sat in front of you! Lol
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2019, 09:13:18 PM »

Leachy it sounds like you have a rap sheet of Hales indiscretions sat in front of you! Lol

once again, I have friends who know people very close to him. Most of his indiscretions are fairly public affairs (pardon the pun) anyway.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2019, 12:20:19 PM »

Friend of mine works for ECB and has been out and about with the players for drinks on a few occasions celebrating. Doesnt have a good word to say about Hales, my mate also spoke in a bit more depth about the whole Stokes affair and how Hales didnt cover himself in glory there. Apparently he left Stokes high and dry and basically ran away and kept quiet about it all for a couple of days
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2019, 12:45:37 PM »

Friend of mine works for ECB and has been out and about with the players for drinks on a few occasions celebrating. Doesnt have a good word to say about Hales, my mate also spoke in a bit more depth about the whole Stokes affair and how Hales didnt cover himself in glory there. Apparently he left Stokes high and dry and basically ran away and kept quiet about it all for a couple of days


The ECB only have themselves to blame for this mess. Both Stokes and Hales have been totally out of control for half a decade. Cocaine, drinking during games, repeated drink-driving, serial adultery including with team-mates partners, circulating obscene images, fights, assaults - and rather than confront the situation, the ECB turn a blind other and instead expend their efforts covering it up and keeping it out of the papers. Its a miracle the lengths they went to to keep Stokes out of jail.


Compare and contrast to how Ulster and Irish rugby dealt with Paddy Jackson and his cronies. Found not guilty, but still told in no uncertain terms to find new careers as they'd never play professional rugby again. If only the ECB had that level of decency and integrity.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2019, 12:49:30 PM »

once again, I have friends who know people very close to him. Most of his indiscretions are fairly public affairs (pardon the pun) anyway.

I know a guy who worked in a tabloid newspaper. He showed me some of the photos and stories they had on Stokes and/or Hales, but had been prevented from running by ECB court injunctions. They were pretty shocking. Hales is not a good team mate, Stokes is just an old fashioned psycho with a hair trigger.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2019, 01:35:06 PM »

You could swap Alex Hales' name for that of Ian Botham throughout this thread and you wouldn't be far from reality.  It isn't a modern problem, it's simply something that gets far more press attention in today's world.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2019, 01:38:05 PM »

I know a guy who worked in a tabloid newspaper. He showed me some of the photos and stories they had on Stokes and/or Hales, but had been prevented from running by ECB court injunctions. They were pretty shocking. Hales is not a good team mate, Stokes is just an old fashioned psycho with a hair trigger.

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2019, 02:10:00 PM »


The ECB only have themselves to blame for this mess. Both Stokes and Hales have been totally out of control for half a decade. Cocaine, drinking during games, repeated drink-driving, serial adultery including with team-mates partners, circulating obscene images, fights, assaults - and rather than confront the situation, the ECB turn a blind other and instead expend their efforts covering it up and keeping it out of the papers. Its a miracle the lengths they went to to keep Stokes out of jail.

Cocaine?!!!! I know Hales was trouble but Stokes had involvement with cocaine, alcohol problems?

Before his brawl, I thought Stokes was captain material but I now I see why (boring) Joe Root is the skipper. How does Root even handle the rowdy bunch?
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2019, 02:27:41 PM »

this may not coincide with the stories on here but i met stokes while in st Lucia and he couldn't have been nicer, willing to talk even after a rubbish tour and while on a day off (day after the test)

was walking back to their hotel with Jimmy, Curran, Jennings and Mark Wood all of them were lovely, willing to have a chat etc

I genuinely think stokes is trying to make up for indiscretions in the past and make sure they dont happen again!

I cant speak for hales as i havent met him but people on here who have, dont have the same impression i got from stokes which says a lot to me.

I would also like to add im a fan of hales the cricketer and a notts fan so hope he can turn it around, put the ego away sort his issues and get back to scoring big runs for notts and england! its difficult times where people need support (and the occasional strong word) not to be cut down in public
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2019, 02:38:53 PM »

Just for balance, as there seem's a lot of negativity about him in this thread...

My parents went out to South Africa to watch one of the ODI games in 2016. Their flight was delayed 24 hours and by pure chance they ended up on the same flight as the England team, who were heading home from the tour.

They spent a fair bit of time in the airport talking to most of the team, with Alex Hales, Chris Jordan & Jos Buttler actually stepping away from the squad for a longer chat! They were all, to quote my mum, "a lovely bunch of lads".

Apparently Stoke's was a bit grumpy looking, but was friendly enough and laughed when my mum declared to him "you're my son's favourite red head" before asking for a picture...
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