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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2019, 04:36:07 PM »

If you play swing bowling off the back foot you will be a laughing stock.

The idea of swing bowling is for the ball to be pitched up and for it to swing late. Playing it off the back foot will leave you very vulnerable.

As for picking seam rotation in the air is a tough ask. Not many club players can do that, especially at the start of an innings.

There are three ways of picking movement, from the hand/bowling action (most recommended) in the air (some days easier than others, usually hard) and off the pitch (can work, can be too late).

There is lots in my book on a lot of these issues, have a read
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=22148.0


We're not talking about swing. We're talking about movement off the pitch. Do keep up.

I refuse to believe my eyesight is really that much better than other clubbies. I think most people don't read the rotation because they've never been taught to.
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2019, 04:55:14 PM »


I refuse to believe my eyesight is really that much better than other clubbies. I think most people don't read the rotation because they've never been taught to.

How do you read the rotation? Just look at the ball? Look for the seam?  I can see the seam off the bowler's hand (maybe in the air too) but can't say I can pick the rotation.
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2019, 05:09:00 PM »

We're not talking about swing. We're talking about movement off the pitch. Do keep up.

I refuse to believe my eyesight is really that much better than other clubbies. I think most people don't read the rotation because they've never been taught to.

I read the below as swing and spin.

Spinners, or medium pacers?

Either way, the answer is to play as much off the back foot with a low backlift as possible, if you do get drawn forward try to get a decent stride in so you can get as close to the pitch as possible, and if you do find yourself forward but stuck in no-man's land, as will happen every now and then, just stick everything you've got in the way of it.

There really is no need to keep being rude.
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2019, 05:24:59 PM »

I read the below as swing and spin.

There really is no need to keep being rude.

We were talking about finger spin and slow offcutters.

Do you really think the laughing stock line was appropriate in a respectful discussion?
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2019, 08:14:39 PM »

Not read previous thread so may be going over old ground but two pennies worth from an old man

1. Should a batsman have different technique for different types of bowling? Eg: Swing v/s spin?

No reason why not as you can alter your technique slightly for different speeds or leg to
off spin but I wouldn't drastically alter it as it may throw off your rhythm mid innings

2. Can you use same technique to defend v/s power-hit a ball to another dimension? Reason I ask this is because there is some pre-meditation in my power shots.

Best power players Ive seen play from stable solid base just like best defensive players so no reason you cant as its all intent for me

3. Off-cutters at good length that get thru my defence

This would suggest to me that you are playing round the ball so bat isnt coming down straight thus leaving a gap

4. I have been squared up by out-swingers pitching middle/leg and then barely missing my off stump. I have noticed that at close range, any sharp change in direction whether it is seam or swing is nearly impossible to track by my eyes. If I am anticipating that movement, then I can track it. If I am not ready for it, that (near) lateral movement is so quick that my eyes can't track it. What's the best approach for that?

If a ball pitches middle and leg then takes off you shake the bowlers hand and buy him a beer

If medium swing or spin position on the crease is the most important thing for me, if the movement is beating you try stepping out further to smother movement or right back to play off the pitch
If quick bowling to you the only thing I can suggest is slightly lower back lift to help you stop pushing at ball and pre meditate a little and practice
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2019, 06:15:21 AM »

Ah yes..... he can be more patronising.
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2019, 06:56:54 AM »

How do you read the rotation? Just look at the ball? Look for the seam?  I can see the seam off the bowler's hand (maybe in the air too) but can't say I can pick the rotation.

It's something you can practice. Have someone underarm a cricket ball to you with different angles of spin and see if you can pick the direction before catching it. It's easy with practice.
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2019, 07:53:57 AM »

Long time lurker here - might not be of use for you but hey i'll chime in and then be told im wrong by someone but that's what the forum is here for  :D I'm only talking from personal experience and how I play and what I've been coached over the years.

1. Should a batsman have different technique for different types of bowling? Eg: Swing v/s spin?

You can do and I certainly do, whether you should do? I'd say yes probably based on watching a lot of professional cricket, I think it would be fair to say most players do with an extreme example being Ben Foakes. I know I use a bigger stride when facing spin on the front foot and when playing spin off the back foot (unless im cutting the ball late) I square myself up more than I would playing a seamer off the back foot.

2. Can you use same technique to defend v/s power-hit a ball to another dimension? Reason I ask this is because there is some pre-meditation in my power shots.

I think the basis of a strong base still needs to be there in whatever you are trying to do. But personally I know my technique changes slightly when hitting compared to when defending a ball, for one i'll go long through the ball rather than slowing the bat down into contact. I also pre meditate some power shots but find its knowing when it isn't quite there to reign it in and play the ball differently.

3. Off-cutters at good length that get thru my defence

This would suggest to me that you are playing round the ball so bat isn�t coming down straight thus leaving a gap - I'll copy @roco 's response for this one.

4. I have been squared up by out-swingers pitching middle/leg and then barely missing my off stump. I have noticed that at close range, any sharp change in direction whether it is seam or swing is nearly impossible to track by my eyes. If I am anticipating that movement, then I can track it. If I am not ready for it, that (near) lateral movement is so quick that my eyes can't track it. What's the best approach for that?

But the ball has missed off stump? You are still there  :) if it has done that then fair play to the bowler. There are some cases when you will pick up the movement and be able to adjust, occasions when it will just move and wont have time to adjust and the ones in the middle, you'll see it move and have some time to adjust but not quite enough. In these i'd say back your technique and dont follow it, times when I have followed it have just led me to snick off. Bowlers are allowed to bowl good balls ( it really pains us bats to say that) but if you look at your dismissals for a season there are going to be some that you just couldn't avoid, its the rest of them that you want to try and remove from your game. 

Apologies for the long one - just fancied chiming in for once.
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Re: Batting Technique
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2019, 12:31:01 PM »

Bowlers are allowed to bowl good balls ( it really pains us bats to say that)

How dare they. :D :D :D
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