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KP: story of a genius.
« on: May 06, 2019, 01:19:38 PM »

Coming this summer to Sky, having dumped Sky TV not sure how I'm going to watch it myself!

Nasser doing the interview which may or may not tell us anything new.From the preview clip 'people did not want to play for England because of Amderson,Broad,Swann and Prior' it looks like gloves off time.

Maybe not much we don't know already but it should be entertaining  :)
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 01:51:00 PM »

It was a shame what happened to his career. He was such a one-in-a-generation kind of a batsman. I am sure he had his antagonists but he probably invited  envy and resentment thru his antics.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 02:32:20 PM »

I am not sure much more can be said about the dressing room clique that was allowed to fester at that time.  There wasn't a lot of good will towards them either in the England dressing room or in that of the opposition.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 02:47:49 PM »

I'm sure you are right about that @SD

That was our most successful period arguably in English cricket. The only ICC tournament we have won in Barbados-the 2020.

Away Ashes win and getting to the worlds number 1 team all in that period.

The personalities and egos of that team are what makes it interesting, we had great success but also controversy and fallouts.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 03:41:49 PM »

Top professionals will have egos most of the time.. its one of the reasons they tend to be at the very top of the game. The trick as with most things in life is how you man manage people. What this whole affair shows us is that in the modern game as well as general society man management is utterly dire. Anyone can simply stand and dictate it being able to get a group of people to perform greater than the sum of its parts and work as a team is truely a undervalued and under rated skill.

Very few have it and yet we have lots of managers, team leads, lead this, lead that...

At my work we have people who literally just follow process and bid people to do things and use the treat of poor reports or no bonus pay as the bid to make the work.. then we wonder why leadership/management is poor. Listening to others, this way of managing is prevalent. These people genuinely get on up the ladder and so see themselves as good managers... fact is people would knife them in the back at the first chance.. hardly showing any leadership if youre not inspiring loyalty or people to put that extra effort in etc
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 09:31:56 PM »

I am not sure that poor leadership is a modern malaise.  The stories of Wally Hammond's leadership of the first posr-war tour to Australia draw parallels with the way Phil Mickelson approaches Ryder cup duty, whereas the way Micheal Vaughan handled the egos in his 2005 dressing room was expert. 
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2019, 08:36:08 AM »

KP had only just broken into the test team in '05 so was on best behaviour. Flintoff aside, I don't think there were too many egos in that dressing room at the time. Would have been interesting to see how Vaughan would have handled things once KP knew he was the big star in the side.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2019, 08:47:26 AM »

worth noting that Swann didn't last too long under Duncan Fletcher.
He only got a chance because of Peter Moores.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2019, 11:17:19 AM »

worth noting that Swann didn't last too long under Duncan Fletcher.
He only got a chance because of Peter Moores.

absolutely Buzz, chucked out early for being a clown, in his biography Swann admits he was too immature to be picked back then.

KP seemed to strike a relationship with Fletcher and Graham Ford, and went to Ford during a lean spell to work on his game...and therefore bypassing the England coaches.

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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2019, 11:18:43 AM »

Oh look, some more mud slinging from one bloke to some others

They can release all the books and TV specials they like but the public will never know the whole truth behind it all.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2019, 12:32:39 PM »

Just seen this on linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6530920723043749888

Hopefully some pretty honest questions and opinions being put forward from this clip
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2019, 01:19:43 PM »

^ Some tough and direct questions by Nasser.

Cliques in a team are a b*^$h but so is texting the opposition.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 03:12:50 PM »

Annoying that Piers Morgan is in it.

That said, I'm very much looking forward to it.
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 06:00:43 PM »

Gotta say, I was huge huge fan of his cricket, theres no denying he came across as a bit of a tool, but so what.
I remember that time,, and there was no one in English cricket that could remotely bat the way he could.
A lot hated the way he batted,,,me personally I loved it.
How many English batters about at that time genuinely worried bowlers???

And I suppose he only highlighted how far from the game the ecb are/were

Cant wait to see this
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Re: KP: story of a genius.
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2019, 10:11:49 AM »


Looks awesome
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