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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 07:48:09 PM »

Genuinely I have watched a lot of Flintoff play, I was at lords when he dismantled the prime saffa attack with his woodworm and it snapped.
I watched masses of the 2005 ashes.
Flintoff was a gun player.

But stokes is just better.
He scores more hundreds, fields better and has taken more five fors.
Both in their prime. I am picking Stokes.
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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 08:33:59 PM »

Trouble is you only remember the best spells and batting performances of Freddie as it happened a good few years ago. With stokes being current you base it on how hes playing at present or recently.

@Buzzs logic of basing it on the stats is the only way to compare without looking back purely on fond memories

Massively agree with this bit. I think people look back with rose-tinted glasses a lot in sport hence why a lot of the older generation harp on about how things were 'better back in my day,' and hence talk nonsense about how the West Indies/Aussies of the 70's/80's bowled at 100mph and no batsman ever played a bad shot.

 I think it's why people won't fully appreciate current players until they're long retired. Aka Smith/Kohli will be talked of as genuine greats.
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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 09:16:18 PM »

Id pick Flintoff
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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2019, 12:02:45 AM »

Genuinely I have watched a lot of Flintoff play, I was at lords when he dismantled the prime saffa attack with his woodworm and it snapped.
I watched masses of the 2005 ashes.
Flintoff was a gun player.

But stokes is just better.
He scores more hundreds, fields better and has taken more five fors.
Both in their prime. I am picking Stokes.

Id never chuck stokes the new ball with Langer and Hayden opening up and Ricky P at 3. Fred every time.
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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2019, 06:06:38 AM »

As much as I like Flintoff.. I think Stokes is a better player and also applies himself in a much better way as a professional.
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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2019, 07:22:00 AM »

Id never chuck stokes the new ball with Langer and Hayden opening up and Ricky P at 3. Fred every time.
On the flip side, Stokes cleans up the tail better than Flintoff could...

And previously Flintoff got to bowl at Langer, Hayden etc with the second new ball, not the first...! 😂😂😂😂
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Re: Ben Stokes or Flintoff?
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2019, 05:52:20 PM »

It's also tricky when one - Flintoff - had such a short window of fitness. That said, for me the Freddie of 2003 through 2007 was probably the greatest of the three England all rounders. His bowling was intense, and those long spells meant that batsmen never got respite, whilst his batting was decent enough.
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