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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2019, 12:58:54 AM »

Very interesting!
Just doing some quick maths, an 18mm hole, 50mm deep with a 20mm plug would give 7.6 cm3 of airspace.
X .640 density (guess?!) X 8 holes = 39g saved, or 1.37 oz
So if it's done for weight saving, It would  be easier to take 39g out with a travisher, but I admire your attention to detail and skills :)
Should look great when it's done!
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2019, 01:43:25 AM »

Yeah, 100% not for weight saving - it's purely aesthetic and just for something different.
The holes are 20mm but nowhere near 50mm deep (too scared of making the face thin) and the first half of the hole is on the angle anyway so it's only removing timber from 50% of the diameter.
I'm waiting for my 20mm plug cutter to arrive so I can make a mess from some cedar, otherwise my options are really only pine or 'tasmanian oak' which is a low density hardwood that's slightly heavier than oak.
I actually think that by the time I add glue and potentially a heavier timber plug the bat weight could increase.
Any tips on how to cut the plugs nicely would be appreciated, I think I probably should have done this earlier in the process so if I mark the bat of the bat with my ham fisted efforts I could always remove a bit more material but since it's pretty close to the finished shape I will have to be very careful.
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2019, 08:50:31 AM »

How come you didn't use cork @Komdotkom .
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2019, 10:28:10 AM »

Most wine in Australia is screw top!
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2019, 10:05:57 PM »

Ebay is your friend
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2019, 10:58:37 PM »

Plugs are made, my furniture maker was doing a job in Huon Pine and had some offcuts so we made some tapered dowels.



I also got my other bat that I made back from the laser engraver. Turned out 2lb 8oz exactly with the grip.




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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2019, 05:45:12 AM »

I've got the plugs in and sanded down close to the flanks? of the bat, but the plugs are harder than the willow so it is very difficult to sand them flush. At the moment they are perhaps .5mm proud at the centre and not visibly proud but you can feel it with your fingers. I saw on the L&W video that they use a drum sander, but I don't have one of those.
Any tips so I don't dig holes in the willow around the plugs?
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2019, 09:57:48 AM »

Without a drum sander it's going to be hard - the bat James Laver was making had a convex profile so was easier to shave off with a sharp plane but your bat looks like it has a bit of concaving which will make this unworkable.

A good inflatable drum sander is worth the outlay, makes the whole sanding process a lot easier and allows for uniform sanding.

Cracking bats by the way :)
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2019, 10:37:46 AM »

This looks the business!, That engraving is class.

I think a drum sander would do trick, I'm not sure where you'd find the right thing though, I've been looking just for the sanding drum as I've got the bench grinder and it's proving very hard to find! I am based in Aus though so that maybe why.
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2019, 09:21:35 PM »

Here's where I'm up to at the moment, it still needs a final sand and I have to straighten up the lines a little bit.
I shouldn't have used Titebond III on the plugs because when it dries it is a bit darker than willow so I've ended up with some dark rings around the plugs, particularly where the fit isn't perfect.
Carbatec sell drum sanding stuff if you are looking for it
https://www.carbatec.com.au/sanding-and-finishing/sanding-drums-and-sets/drums





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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2019, 09:24:51 PM »

Very cool!

I have bats that could shed 2.5 oz of weight!

Has the performance changed/diminshed?
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2019, 10:09:04 PM »

No idea about the actual weight difference, I didn't bother to weigh it prior to drilling the holes.
If I can get motivated to finish it this week I'll take it for a run against the ball machine on the weekend, but there's no change in performance going by the very scientific method of bouncing a ball on it.
This one feels 'right' in the hands though, much better than the one I got engraved which I suppose is due to the reduced weight and thinner toe.
I've asked the guy who did my Tusker reproduction stickers to see if he can make the Puma/Millichamp ones.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2019, 10:14:39 PM by Komdotkom »
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2019, 01:32:28 AM »

Here's where I'm up to at the moment, it still needs a final sand and I have to straighten up the lines a little bit.
I shouldn't have used Titebond III on the plugs because when it dries it is a bit darker than willow so I've ended up with some dark rings around the plugs, particularly where the fit isn't perfect.
Carbatec sell drum sanding stuff if you are looking for it
https://www.carbatec.com.au/sanding-and-finishing/sanding-drums-and-sets/drums






Great job mate, looks fantastic!
I have seen the carbatec stuff but I'm looking for something a bit bigger for the bench grinder, I think they call them pnuematic drums, whatever they are they contour around the curves of the bat a bit better. 
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2019, 03:04:55 AM »

You could try Timbecon, they have all sorts of weird stuff. I assume you are looking for a 150mm OD, they look pretty expensive the cheapest I could see was $125US
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Re: M&H S6 / Puma Original dimensions
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2019, 09:48:33 PM »

I finally got my reproduction Puma / M&H stickers in the mail, they are ok but probably a bit too dark and the spine sticker is too long and needs a reverse taper to allow for the rise in spine height - but that doesn't really bother me too much.
I took it for a run in the nets on Saturday and the performance is pretty good but it was only short net sessions so I have not really had the opportunity to get a good idea of the performance yet, but it feels nice in the hands.
Any ideas where I can get these grips from (on the Puma) it's a chevron top and coil bottom, nice and thick. I have only seen them sold as Salix hybrid but they end up being nearly $20 each by the time I have them shipped to Australia so would love to find a local/bulk supplier.


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