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Women's Ashes 2019
« on: July 08, 2019, 01:12:21 AM »

Is anyone following this, or is it another example of English cricket being kept from the masses by pay TV?

After a convincing series against WI, England are finding the going a bit tougher, with Aus going 6-0 up after taking a clean sweep of the ODI's. 
First two games were very good, but last night Elyse Perry was amazing with a record 7/22 that ripped through the English top order having them 21/6 at one stage, with the tail wagging to be all out for 75, chasing 269!

A textbook example of how to bowl at the stumps :) , and also a textbook example of how not to bat when the bowlers are attacking the stumps :( 4 LBW, 2 bowled, 2 caught behind
Many of the English girls seem to love either taking strike on, or shuffling in front of their stumps, and paid the price.

Interesting that despite hawkeye tracking being there, the women don't get reviews  :o Why???
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 05:57:38 AM »

Our performances have been getting gradually worse.
Aussies are much better than us and they have a pro first class kind of level. It isn't a surprise.
Our bowling has been good enough, but batting has let us down.
The girls will have a fight on their hands to avoid a whitewash
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 08:19:54 AM »

I really don't think the bowling was special.

Not 1 of our top 6 played straight. Every single one of them got out playing around their pad or accross the line. Mark butcher was saying that the girls made the bowling look unplayable when in reality all they did was bowl straight and wobble it around a bit.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 10:29:00 AM »

Batting was woeful looking at the dismissals. However the gap will widen, the Aussies I believe have something like 60 full time cricketers, we have about 20. Plus going forward there seems to be no women's county cricket going forward. So how women's cricket can grow and flourish I don't know.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 01:27:54 PM »

From what I heard in commentary, England are the current T20 world champs, so there is certainly talent there, and maybe it will reveal itself in future games.  Tammy Beaumont was fantastic in game 2, and they were very competetive in the first two games.  Brunt doing her ankle during a wicket celebration, and missing game 3 left a big hole.

There is huge momentum in Australia towards women's participation in traditional men's sports.  Over the past 3 years AFLW has attracted a lot of attention, and drawn many women from other 'traditional' women's sports at a national and grassroots level.  Women's cricket is more established, and hasn't had the same level of growth, but the past 4 years of Women's BBL has definitely generated more interest in women's cricket.  I think most of the games have free admission, and they get as many as possible on free TV, so Cricket Australia are making a big effort to generate interest.

There have been 2 handy girls come through our local Junior cricket association in the last few years, Vs none in the 30 odd years before that, so you could argue that it's working.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2019, 01:34:33 PM »

From what I heard in commentary, England are the current T20 world champs, so there is certainly talent there, and maybe it will reveal itself in future games.

England are current 50 over World Champions (won in 2017) and Australia are current T20 World Champions (having beaten England in the 2018 final)
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 01:58:42 PM »

It might just be my imagination but the Aussie ladies look so much fitter than their English counterparts. I think also that England's preparation in playing a poor West Indies team has worked against them in terms of what you can get away with in terms of shot selection. West Indies also shelled quite a few catches so England often got away with loose shots in that series.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 04:45:39 PM »

England are comfortably the second best team in the world but Australia are pulling off into the distance. 

England were the first side to turn professional and had a period of dominance, now Australia are the first side to have a fully professional domestic set up and will similarly enjoy a period at the top.

If the ECB are serious about catching Australia it will take a serious long term investment.

I can't see that replicating the 18-team set up of the men's first class game would be worthwhile - it doesn't work for the men's game - but a targeted investment in making a number of fully professional women's sides would broaden the player base and make a career in cricket more viable than it currently is
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2019, 10:24:03 PM »

Whats been blindingly obvious is that mr Robinson decided to end the career of the teams best batsman. He used the excuse of running between the wickets but she was stand out head and shoulders still well ahead of the rest. At the time there was one who looked like challenging that, miss Taylor. Sadly, whilst her keeping is exceptional her batting simply hasnt recovered after illness. The rest, whilst better than the rest used to be, simply arent very good.

Australia have two of the worlds premier womens players in Perry and lanning but what is really winning it is the standard of the next batch.. Healy , shutte Etc Etc

Quite simply, this England side over eggs itself as some grest team when it isnt. The women need to stop ponsing about and actually improve or ship out

Gunn is past it
Knight is over rated
Jones can beat on crap but against anthing good isnt good (shame as I do like her too 🙈)
Shrubsole still does t look fit
Brunt is aging and slowing down
Ecclestone.. over rated
Wyatt is a good hitter but nothing more
Sciver flstters to deceive time and time again
Beaumont seems fairly consistent tbf
Winfield awful
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 11:54:08 PM »

England are current 50 over World Champions (won in 2017) and Australia are current T20 World Champions (having beaten England in the 2018 final)

Thanks for clearing up my mixup :)  Either way, there is must be a lot of talent that for whatever reason, hasn't fully shown itself so far.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2019, 10:51:55 AM »

Whats been blindingly obvious is that mr Robinson decided to end the career of the teams best batsman. He used the excuse of running between the wickets but she was stand out head and shoulders still well ahead of the rest. At the time there was one who looked like challenging that, miss Taylor. Sadly, whilst her keeping is exceptional her batting simply hasnt recovered after illness. The rest, whilst better than the rest used to be, simply arent very good.

Australia have two of the worlds premier womens players in Perry and lanning but what is really winning it is the standard of the next batch.. Healy , shutte Etc Etc

Quite simply, this England side over eggs itself as some grest team when it isnt. The women need to stop ponsing about and actually improve or ship out

Gunn is past it
Knight is over rated
Jones can beat on crap but against anthing good isnt good (shame as I do like her too 🙈)
Shrubsole still does t look fit
Brunt is aging and slowing down
Ecclestone.. over rated
Wyatt is a good hitter but nothing more
Sciver flstters to deceive time and time again
Beaumont seems fairly consistent tbf
Winfield awful

Summed it up pretty well there

England side always come across as over confident, over hyped and an air of arrogance. Aussies showing them up so far, and just get their heads down and get job done minimal of fuss

Wont get any better either by the looks of things as womens county cricket is to be scrapped or severely reduced anyway. Katie Levick of Yorkshire is usually fairly vocal about that on Twitter. Shes one that's been let down by the system and its cliques
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2019, 11:21:59 AM »

It's nice to see some test match cricket in some form or another, Australia winning the toss and Batting first on a strangely dry pitch,  spin in the 11th over of the day but Ecclestone walked off in tears after hurting her shoulder attempting a catch. It could be a long day in the field for England with Healy hitting them well and Lanning showing some ominous signs of form.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2019, 04:20:37 PM »

Complete lack of penetration in the bowling sadly costing England currently. Perry as usual batting well
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2019, 04:44:19 PM »

Team selection and choice of surface to play on made with the hope of batting first and making a big score before bowling Australia out twice on a deteriorating track.  Hard work once Australia win the toss and batted.
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Re: Women's Ashes 2019
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2019, 04:47:59 PM »

Shrubsole and Brunt look fat and unfit, hardly sends confidence through the rest of the side
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