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I am sure this would have been addressed earlier in this forum somewhere, but just cant seem to find it through the search engine.

So guys, this season I shifted from a 2lbs 10oz (GM Purist/BB B20/SM) to a 3lbs Affinity. The heavy stick came as a gift and thus I went in exploring it. I am based in Canada and we  play almost exclusively T20 version of the game. I tried the new bat in couple of games and never went back to the lighter one till date. I am not a big muscular guy to swing this bat for sixes all the time, but I usually time my balls fairly well and realized that I fetched more runs with the heavy one. It surprised me a lot that this bat worked for me, and wonder if more meat in the bat is the reason for the ball to travel faster & farther.

Please share if you had a similar experience, the weight/brand/type of bat you used, and the reasons you think about the positive impact on the game with the use of heavy bat.
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I am sure this would have been addressed earlier in this forum somewhere, but just cant seem to find it through the search engine.

So guys, this season I shifted from a 2lbs 10oz (GM Purist/BB B20/SM) to a 3lbs Affinity. The heavy stick came as a gift and thus I went in exploring it. I am based in Canada and we  play almost exclusively T20 version of the game. I tried the new bat in couple of games and never went back to the lighter one till date. I am not a big muscular guy to swing this bat for sixes all the time, but I usually time my balls fairly well and realized that I fetched more runs with the heavy one. It surprised me a lot that this bat worked for me, and wonder if more meat in the bat is the reason for the ball to travel faster & farther.

Please share if you had a similar experience, the weight/brand/type of bat you used, and the reasons you think about the positive impact on the game with the use of heavy bat.

I think it all depends on your style of play.. when i switch to heavier bats, I find the drives and punches to improve, and its a lot of fun crunching one for four, but i miss out on my main strengths (pulls and cuts). For me, the faster bat speed is the main priority.

I also feel like lighter bats (2 lb 7) suit my own game because:
1. I naturally have a higher backlift (always had it - even as a kid)
2. I am sometimes late to pick up the ball, and need a quick pickup and swing - something that I haven't been able to do with heavier bats (it feels like I am batting in slow motion, and I also lose my shape)

No clear rule on what is "better" - Sachin used very heavy bats, Sobers and Bradman used very light bats. I think their upbringing was part of the reason why they felt comfortable with their respective bat weights (Sachin learnt the game using his elder brother's heavier bat, while Bradman learnt the game smacking golf balls with a stump).
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The one game that I used a heavy bat (2lb12oz's) I managed to get 60 off 34 balls. Majority of these were drives and one pull shot for 6 off a spin bowler that went a mile. I didn't use it again as I just didn't feel comfortable with it mentally, so haven't used it again.

I play in Australia and much prefer a lighter bat (2lb7-2lb9oz's) for pulls and cuts. I also like to throw my hands at the ball. I was someone who'd constantly c hange my mind as to whether the weight mattered but to me the most important thing is to find something you are comfortable with and that eliminates one worry from my game.
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I am sure this would have been addressed earlier in this forum somewhere, but just cant seem to find it through the search engine.

So guys, this season I shifted from a 2lbs 10oz (GM Purist/BB B20/SM) to a 3lbs Affinity. The heavy stick came as a gift and thus I went in exploring it. I am based in Canada and we  play almost exclusively T20 version of the game. I tried the new bat in couple of games and never went back to the lighter one till date. I am not a big muscular guy to swing this bat for sixes all the time, but I usually time my balls fairly well and realized that I fetched more runs with the heavy one. It surprised me a lot that this bat worked for me, and wonder if more meat in the bat is the reason for the ball to travel faster & farther.

Please share if you had a similar experience, the weight/brand/type of bat you used, and the reasons you think about the positive impact on the game with the use of heavy bat.

IF you can swing a heavier bat at the same speed as a light bat, then yes, the ball will travel further. However most people cannot do this and bat speed will usually trump the extra weight.
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You don't have to go to the extremes, you can find a happy middle (ground).

I have experimented with different weights and settled on 2-11/2-10 bats. There is a marked difference in my bat speed with bat weight over 2-11. Anything below 2-10.something is just too light and fast for me.

Having said all that, there are couple of things to consider:

1. If you are facing quicks, judging line and length early and getting in a strong position will take your batting/scoring lot further than a super-heavy or super-light bat.
2. Not all heavy bats are hard to swing. I use 2-11s that are Newbery Blitz shaped made by Keeley. The blade is almost an inch shorter than a regular SH bat. I can generate good bat speed from that bat. Ultimately, I had to find the heaviest bat I could swing hard for long periods of time. 3lb was too heavy. 2-13 was messing up my timing against quicks when pulling. 2-11 (without stickers, toe guard, face sheet) is the perfect medium.
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I struggled to bat with an consistency going through as a youth and earlier adult. Luckily I had bowling to keep me in the 1sts.


I lost my bat(it may still be in the bush I threw it in......) so next game had to borrow the skippers bat.
Which was a 3lb beast.

Couple of 50s followed, opened as no one wales willing and got a ton.


Havent sued anything lighter than 2.14 since.



But....... I am a very very aggressive opener. I play Saturdays like its midweek, I go from ball one.
Im not sure the weight would be as effective if I was trying to dig in, or nudge and nurdle.


Amusingly the skipper switched to 3.6 bats not long after in an attempt to mimic my success. Its worked for him, but he is the size of a mountain.
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IF you can swing a heavier bat at the same speed as a light bat, then yes, the ball will travel further. However most people cannot do this and bat speed will usually trump the extra weight.
The opposite of this is actually true - within a usable range, the increase in weight trumps the loss of bat speed.

There's more to is than just hitting the ball further though, otherwise we'd all be using 3lb+. For a given player there will always be a sweet spot, but I've always reckoned most amateur players use a bat that's too light.
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Force = mass x acceleration, so it won't take much to make using a heavier bat more effective for boundary clearing.
You will just need to work on your timing and hope you don't get tennis elbow from the additional weight.
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I used a heavier bat last season, just under 3lb. It was great to hit with, especially during the 2nd half of the season as the performance improved - I am very slack about knocking in. But I did find that the extra ounces were tough to cart around after batting for a while. Once I got past 20 overs or so, the weight of helmet and bat really started to tire me, and my scoring slowed considerably. I've used a lighter bat this season, and prefer it overall.
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Force = mass x acceleration
While this isn't wrong, it's nothing to do with cricket ball collisions.
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I have used a 2.11 bat once and went.  Ok got 50 odd but was such hard work and i have never ever personally found a heavy bat that picks up like a light bat, regardless of some companies claims etc, plus a 3lb bat is always going to be a 3lb bat on your muscles when playing and fatigue will set in quicker.

I have now found a happy medium of 2.9 which gives enough wood in the bat and fast enough bat speed and now iv been using this weight for the last 3/4 seasons muscle memory means even when i come across genuine quick bowling i have the bat speed and agility to play all shots attack or defensive.
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Edit - never mind, I got carried away with some physics!
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Edit - and again......
« Last Edit: September 04, 2019, 02:11:46 PM by Chompy9760 »
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Physics is only part of it, and is based on an all else being equal assumption.
All else is usually not equal, as your body tries to adjust to the extra weight.   In my case, I have noticed my entire swing plane changes when I bat with a heavier bat. One notable difference is that during my backlift, my hands tend to push out away from my body (an old bad habit) much more with a heavier bat (presumably cuz my body isnt strong enough to maintain hands close to the body).


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Physics is only part of it, and is based on an all else being equal assumption.
All else is usually not equal, as your body tries to adjust to the extra weight.
Precisely what my long, detailed and dull deleted post showed :)

The only way a heavier bat can have more kinetic energy than a light bat, is if you change the way you swing it.  And that is what usually happens.
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