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England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« on: September 13, 2019, 11:41:17 AM »

So, the selectors have already intimated that the squad for the tour to New Zealand will have quite an experimental look to it - though they have not confirmed what that means specifically, I wonder what we all would like to see for those two Tests?

I decided to rest everyone who plays all three formats in my side, save Archer who has just come into the squad - so no Root, Stokes, Buttler, Bairstow, Woakes (Roy or Ali either FWIW) - before realising that this left almost no experience in the batting line up.  I didn't select Dawid Malan, despite him being in mind for South Africa.  Because of that, and the inevitable nibble in Kiwi pitches, I went for a slightly odd either/or selection in the squad to give myself the option of playing six batsmen whilst keeping five bowling options in a relatively light 14 man squad.  Broad travels as a back up seamer and to share his experience.

Burns, Sibley, Northeast, Denly, Lyth, POPE, Rhodes or Mullaney, Foakes (w), S Curran, Archer, Broad, Gregory, Porter, Wood (or J Overton if Wood not fit), Leach

I reckon that'd then leave me fielding:

Burns (c)
Sibley
Lyth
Denly
POPE
Rhodes/Mullaney
Foakes (w)
Curran
Gregory
Archer
Leach
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2019, 11:51:29 AM »

No Pope? Not sure Lyth will get anywhere near either tbf. I agree though it's a good chance to test some players against a good attack in what could be testing conditions.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2019, 12:12:22 PM »

My personal selections would be:

Burns
Sibley
Hain
Ballance
Pope
Northeast
Foakes
Root
Stokes
Archer
Broad
Anderson
Curran
Wood (if fit)
Gregory
J Overton

With one of the last 2 missing out if wood is fit.

Likely playing 11 of

Burns
Sibley
Hain
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Curran
Archer
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2019, 12:33:08 PM »

No Pope? Not sure Lyth will get anywhere near either tbf. I agree though it's a good chance to test some players against a good attack in what could be testing conditions.

Ooh, interesting omission on my part - I was looking at my squad and wondering why there was no spare batsman, that'd be the reason.  Time for some judicious editing.

Lyth, I agree, probably won't.  My thinking was, he has test experience, has had a good season in Division One, and brings top notch slip fielding and useful off spin to the mix. 
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2019, 01:13:48 PM »

I would note that the kiwi test team is very good.
The ECB has said they are resting people from the T20 games, but I expect them to take a full squad to New Zealand.

Of the openers they will pick
Burns, Sibley and Zac Crawley
Then we will see the usual suspects
Denly, Buttler, Root, Stokes, Bairstow, Pope
Foakes may get a trip, but will likely not go because he will show YJB up.
Then we will see
Curran, Woakes, Archer, Broad, Anderson and Leach.
Plus probably one more seamer.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2019, 04:59:58 PM »

Woakes looks like he could do with a rest. Tempted to rest Bairstow and Stokes too.

Wouldnt mind seeing Malan given another chance as well as a Virdi and the Lancs quick - Javid is it?
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2019, 05:37:21 PM »

Mahmood, I think you mean?
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2019, 06:14:52 PM »

Cant wait for this. My home ground is hosting its first ever test match there against England in November. Hopefully you bring most of the stars. I'm sure the players and visitors will enjoy the local area. https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/195303-demand-tauranga-not-slowing.html
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2019, 09:48:19 AM »

When is the squad announced?

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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2019, 09:49:43 AM »

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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2019, 10:01:33 AM »

seems like their going to try a few players in all formats which is good.

If Bairstow performs as a batter only its basically him starting again anyway

looks like we could enter the first test with:

burns
sibley
denly
root
stokes
bairstow
buttler (WK)
woakes
archer
leach
broad

all too familar but its the team weve all wanted for ages
could also argue that sam curran should play ahead of woakes! it swings in NZ!!!
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2019, 10:02:06 AM »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/09/18/jos-buttler-poised-take-gloves-jonny-bairstow-englands-tour/

I'm genuinely baffled. What has Bairstow got to do to get dropped?

Been consistently mediocre for the majority of his international career?
Thrown his toys out the pram once too often?
Not been the best keeper in the playing XI, let alone England? 

Edit, I've read the article and he's due to play as just a batsman.
As he's never scored a hundred after keeping wicket in a Test match (the last man to do so was Jos Buttler, when he took the gloves from an injured Bairstow), maybe they feel he could score more runs without the burden of keeping?
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2019, 10:02:19 AM »

i know the article said pope was set to play but its our selectors!!!!
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2019, 10:08:03 AM »

I would like Pope at 5 followed by Stokes at 6. I still think Foakes should be keeping, but it doesn't appear to be likely.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2019, 10:24:16 AM »

would like to see this for the first test

burns
sibley
denly
root
stokes
buttler
foakes
curran
archer
leach
broad

in squad
billings
pope
Northeast
Anderson
Z Crawley

would be giving roy, woakes & Bairstow a break. trent boult could have roy and Bairstow in all sorts of trouble.

also consider the workload on archer, no point in picking him on slow decks where Anderson/curran will do all the damage with swing
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