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WalkingWicket37

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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2019, 07:49:02 PM »

Mahmood clearly has the potential to be a very good player.

However, is taking him halfway round the world and throwing him into international T20s ahead of time going to help him develop or do more harm than good in the long run?
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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2019, 08:23:06 PM »

Id be interested to see how the win/loss percentage varies between matches where Vince is involved, and those where he isnt. It seems to me that we lose more than we win whenever hes involved.

Personally, Im amazed England gave him another go, as he was absolutely shocking during the World Cup, and he must frustrate everyone within the setup with his amazing ability to looks fantastic, right up until the moment he gets out to a truly idiotic shot.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2019, 10:01:54 PM »

Not sure 109 runs in 3 games is a bad return is it? Plus losing wasn't just down to Vince. We could and should have still won it needing 20 off 18 with 5 wickets left! We all know he can look good for 20 or 30 and get out, but so can others. In shorter formats he's better than he has been in tests.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2019, 08:12:50 AM »

Better in short formats? Hardly, Vince has two fifties in 24 white ball games and still averages under 30. I think the point where anyone might learn something new about him in international cricket is long gone now, backup at best.

Mahmood's county record in white ball is superb, he's earned the callup even if it maybe does come early. There's a world cup on next year though, so now is the time to be giving debuts - no point chucking someone in late.

Still disappointed Benny Howell hasn't got a go...
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2019, 08:24:14 AM »

Exactly. Averages just over 30 in T20s as opposed to 24 in tests, so better. Thanks for proving the point :D Still harsh to put that defeat at his door imo, whether we know all about him at this level or not.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2019, 06:23:04 PM »

Better in short formats? Hardly, Vince has two fifties in 24 white ball games and still averages under 30. I think the point where anyone might learn something new about him in international cricket is long gone now, backup at best.

Mahmood's county record in white ball is superb, he's earned the callup even if it maybe does come early. There's a world cup on next year though, so now is the time to be giving debuts - no point chucking someone in late.

Still disappointed Benny Howell hasn't got a go...

Isn't Benny crocked?
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2019, 07:10:39 PM »

Isn't Benny crocked?
Ah you may have a point there, would make it hard for him to play! Fingers crossed for the home summer next year, although I'll still be amazed if England take the leap.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2019, 08:22:57 PM »

I wonder if they have Higgo's number?
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2019, 10:14:51 PM »

Bairstow called up to test squad as cover for denly

Wonder what odds you'd get on denly not being fit and Jonny playing??
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2019, 10:30:24 PM »

God that's weak.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2019, 10:42:02 PM »

Bairstow called up to test squad as cover for denly

Wonder what odds you'd get on denly not being fit and Jonny playing??

Pretty poor surely given Sibley and Crawley were in the squad ahead of him.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2019, 06:07:00 AM »

Very impressive from Morgan and Malan
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2019, 06:27:30 AM »

WE NOW HAVE TWO T20I CENTURIONS.
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2019, 06:31:31 AM »

So glad I made the effort to get up early. Unbelievable batting!  :D
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Re: England Squad For New Zealand
« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2019, 06:43:58 AM »

Amazing display of power! Highest 3rd wicket partnership in t20.
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