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Jimbo

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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2020, 10:32:11 AM »

anyone else bored of people bringing rock hard new balls to nets and bowling bumpers constantly on fast bouncy indoor nets? last week we had 3 guys all do it in the same net, didn't pitch a single ball up and wasted everyones time. they will be in for a shock when they bowl that length in the first game.

I've taken to criticising the bowler when they collect the ball every time they bowl something ridiculously short. Happily we banned new balls from nets so don't have to deal with that at least.
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2020, 10:47:08 AM »

The nets were using at the moment are so comically bouncy and fast that anyone bowling at around 50mph can bowl bumpers. Its totally pointless, and after a few weeks the novelty seems to have worn off. Im still batting about 3 yards outside of my crease though, as good length balls get up a bit too much.

Thank goodness I have access to another net with more realistic bounce. A lot of batters and bowlers will be in for a big shock come the end of April.
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2020, 11:05:51 AM »

our indoor nets are no use unless you're about to bat on the oval square every game. one of the guys had a go back at me when I asked him to pitch it up, everything pitched up just gets whacked because theres no movement and it comes on well. so all they are now going to do is bowl short so it doesn't come back at them.

means i'll probably only got to a few nets or just have throw downs with a sidearm
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2020, 11:23:34 AM »

The last few years it's been the same, brainless slogging and 50mph bouncers, waste of everyone's time.
This year me and another senior player are trying something new, 2 nets, our recognised bowlers in one "situation" net, bowling to a mark and a plan, the non bowlers in the other "warm up" net, throw downs and bowling so the batsman can warm up before he gets to the "situation" net, each batsman will have a similar goal to what they would have on a Saturday, if they get out, they're out (a few weren't happy hearing this), just hoping they all buy into it
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2020, 11:33:45 AM »

Been a long time since I've regularly netted anywhere with enough bounce to have this problem! It's usually two ways, bowlers don't like being pointlessly slogged and digging it in is the only real response on a flat indoor net. Couldn't be any less of a fan of 'if you're out you're out' though.
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2020, 11:43:37 AM »

You could try and tell people to run a three every time they are called out. I think after a christmas period of roasts and desserts this might make people slog a little bit less. Always tough to enforce, I think everywhere has the same problem.
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2020, 11:45:03 AM »

I wouldn't go to a net where I could be out first ball then bowl for an hour and 45 minutes, not a bad idea if you said first half of your net is ok but after then if your out that's it. at least there is a chance of a long bat. might do us a favour, got skittled far too many times last year and they could all do with learning a defense
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2020, 11:49:56 AM »

We typically have our senior nets on a Thursday - Three lanes: One with a spin mat for you guessed it the spinners, second lane is for seamers/ quick bowlers and the third lane is set up with a weekly challenge on the bowling machine or with the club captain who is coaching. (Just before Christmas was a spin week. So, off spin on the bowling machine, practicing a combination of defence with men around the bat simulated with cones and then playing it generally)

We then also have the fourth lane available if anybody wants something else - I have grown up as a keeper and as such never learnt the trade of bowling, so make myself available to give throwdowns or use the sidearm with people as they've given the time to bowl to me.

At my club we are very lucky to have our own four lane indoor centre so have access to that during the week when it is not in use by other clubs or individuals. This means we normally have a smaller group of us who have another session in the week. This is a bit more technical as the lads who attend are more into the game. Last night we had a bowling machine set up and myself with throwdowns and the sidearm working on specifically playing straight. Small group only 3 of us last night.

Once its light enough we'll go outside and start with 30 mins of fielding split into two groups and then either move inside to net or hopefully have an outdoor wicket prepared to practice on - not as often as we would all like though.

i need to join a club like this
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2020, 12:16:45 PM »

you have to have a purpose to nets

if bowlers want to bowl for the season, getting smashed full shouldn't be an issue however one tool is to have "chances" - if the batter hits it in the air that's one chances - 3 chances and you're out.

it isn't perfect but it may make batters think before bombing it to cover, mid on or mid off. just need some consequence for the batters and some incentive for the bowlers

otherwise I try and find a mate and learn to sidearm
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2020, 12:20:24 PM »

i need to join a club like this

Feel free to move up to the North West @Canners I'll happily exchange some sidearm sessions for a Keeley or two  :D
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2020, 03:10:49 PM »

We typically have our senior nets on a Thursday - Three lanes: One with a spin mat for you guessed it the spinners, second lane is for seamers/ quick bowlers and the third lane is set up with a weekly challenge on the bowling machine or with the club captain who is coaching.

Do you guys do this consistently or is it a once-in-a-while thing?

If you do it consistently, then you must play for a club with very good cricket standard (ergo high level cricketers).

To make nets work, you need people who know what they are doing and know how to get the training results they want. Good nets are choreographed events. 2-3 people with a good plan and determination to stay on course is all it needs to make practice work. Unfortunately, people fall for the trap of "comfort" and "fun" when drilling in the nets.
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2020, 03:53:10 PM »

Every week - unless there is a football match on and we know numbers will be low.

I think it's a combination of high level cricketers, those who have played some higher level stuff and players who are determined to improve, I dont think the standard will be any higher than what some people play on the forum.

These attitudes also show in the actual way people go about their practice in each of the lanes, everyone will get a go but those who are more determined to work on their game and improve will stick to the plan and play properly. Those who are not quite as determined won't get as much out of the practice but that is up to them and they are free to practice how they want (In each lane of course). But i'd encourage everyone to practice actual things that might happen, rather than just clearing the left leg, inside edging a shot over the top and thinking hmmm I didn't quite get that but its not out.

Totally agree! Thats what we use our smaller sessions throughout the week for. Three of us went down this saturday and just hit underarms for a while, might not sound much fun to a lot of people, but for me I was working on a specific problem with my game and by the end of the session I was playing better and therefore happy. There is three of us down tonight to practice and myself and the captain practicing tomorrow, we'll go with specific things we want to work on and tailor the session to that.

This is all in the hope it making a difference come April anyway  :D

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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2020, 04:25:48 PM »

^ Very cool!
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2020, 04:27:11 PM »

i need to join a club like this

Me too! I'd practice most days if I had the opportunity and facilities.
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Re: Club Nets
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2020, 04:37:00 PM »

^ Very cool!

We're very fortunate to have the facilities that we do and the fact that most other clubs around us dont book the hall every night with all 4 lanes. As we got closer to the season and nearby clubs start booking more often we will have less opportunity. Just means the full nets on a thursday night become even more important.

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