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Composite handle into a new bat?
« on: January 10, 2020, 04:29:56 PM »

Hi Everyone,

First of all this forum is the stuff of dreams and full of likeminded cricket badgers, its fantastic.  This then leads to my question, I have an old puma ballistic 6000 that has been absolutely battered over the years and I now use it pretty much exclusively for indoor tournaments as it is so light but completely dead with a proper ball now except for a tiny sweetspot.  The middle is up there with the very best I have ever used (Im sure anyone that has had one will agree) and Im wondering if that is partially down to the composite handle in there.  Does anyone know a batmaker that could fit this handle into a new cleft? Or any idea of how it could work?  Any comments or conversation on this topic are welcome!
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Nathan


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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2020, 04:34:55 PM »

Is that handle even legal now?
But I am sure there are a few guys who could fit that handle to a new cleft, @Red Ink Cricket might be one.

Alternatively you could speak to Robert Pack, who I suspect made that bat in the first place.
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2020, 05:08:14 PM »

Thanks for the reply.  No they aren't legal but I'm yet to meet an umpire that walks round with a bat gauge either yet on a Saturday haha!  I'll see what @Red Ink Cricket come back with cheers!  Do you know how I could contact Robert Pack?

Also I love the tagline on your profile, Tony is a lifetime member of my club and is at training watching and helping every week without fail.  Even have a bradman wall at the club!
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2020, 04:53:54 PM »

So these were made by Keeley, same handle as the C6+. The carbon rod is glued from a hole drilled straight into the blade. It should be possible just to cut out a usual splice and stick a normal handle in there, I'm not sure if they have the 'ears' of a normal bat so you might need to drop an inch on the blade length.
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2020, 07:19:41 PM »

So these were made by Keeley, same handle as the C6+. The carbon rod is glued from a hole drilled straight into the blade. It should be possible just to cut out a usual splice and stick a normal handle in there, I'm not sure if they have the 'ears' of a normal bat so you might need to drop an inch on the blade length.
I think he wants the handle in a new bat rather than a new handle in the current one.
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 08:14:47 PM »

Ahh sorry misread it! In that case, pretty much no chance, these aren't made anymore.
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 08:22:52 PM »

The odd used one pops up on eBay from time to time. Wonder if Keeley could do it? Guess if they cant/wont then nobody can.
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2020, 07:17:19 PM »

Check out Norfolk crick t bats, they have a new carbon handle which is legal for club cricket and used in BBL.
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2020, 08:58:55 PM »

Check out Norfolk crick t bats, they have a new carbon handle which is legal for club cricket and used in BBL.

Arent they outlawed in the pro game? He also seems to be making laminates which the pros use?
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2020, 09:16:31 PM »

Arent they outlawed in the pro game? He also seems to be making laminates which the pros use?

They're outlawed in any cricket played under MCC regulations,  so that rules out virtually all cricket...
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2020, 09:17:22 PM »

They're outlawed in any cricket played under MCC regulations,  so that rules out virtually all cricket...

I thought that was the case, just wanted to check I hadnt missed something
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2020, 10:13:00 PM »

I think Mr Beefcake is talking about having the handle removed and then placed into another bat?
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Re: Composite handle into a new bat?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2020, 10:57:47 PM »

So the Norfolk bats would be ok for use in top level cricket if the carbon makes up less than 1/10th of the handle and doesn't go more than 3.25' into the lower part of the handle. Similar to the Laver Carbo Cane efforts. These are generally done with the intention to stiffen up the handle and reduce energy loss through it.

The C6+ handle was pretty much solely carbon and a foam, it was supposedly lighter (up to 3oz) as well as stiffer than a regular handle.
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