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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2020, 10:33:38 AM »

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-019-0552-0

Interesting research summation on vegan benefits proven or unproven
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2020, 10:58:16 AM »

Another tick from me for plant based eating. I lost a bit over 2 stones from September to Christmas with zero Cardio training. I actually estimate ive lost 3 stones of fat and gained 1 in muscle. All my key lifts are up, deadlifting nearly 3 times my bodyweight. Digestion is better. Feel more energetic. So much more flexible

Im currently on Pescatarian diet, so plants and fish, but planning to go back to Vegan from March.

I think people generally believe what they want to believe when it comes to diet. If people like eating Steak and Cheese they will find some literature online that makes them comfortable eating them.

When in reality farmed red meat and dairy are absolutely horrendous for your blood pressure and heart health.

When it comes to exercise, aswell as enough cardio to fulfill your role in the team I would recommend thinking about exercises specific to your role. For example - a keeper may benefit from different types of weighted squats, explosive power from the legs etc.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2020, 11:09:17 AM »

Another tick from me for plant based eating. I lost a bit over 2 stones from September to Christmas with zero Cardio training. I actually estimate ive lost 3 stones of fat and gained 1 in muscle. All my key lifts are up, deadlifting nearly 3 times my bodyweight. Digestion is better. Feel more energetic. So much more flexible

Im currently on Pescatarian diet, so plants and fish, but planning to go back to Vegan from March.

I think people generally believe what they want to believe when it comes to diet. If people like eating Steak and Cheese they will find some literature online that makes them comfortable eating them.

When in reality farmed red meat and dairy are absolutely horrendous for your blood pressure and heart health.

When it comes to exercise, aswell as enough cardio to fulfill your role in the team I would recommend thinking about exercises specific to your role. For example - a keeper may benefit from different types of weighted squats, explosive power from the legs etc.

I do love Steak and cheese hahaha!
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2020, 11:25:35 AM »

Another tick from me for plant based eating. I lost a bit over 2 stones from September to Christmas with zero Cardio training. I actually estimate ive lost 3 stones of fat and gained 1 in muscle. All my key lifts are up, deadlifting nearly 3 times my bodyweight. Digestion is better. Feel more energetic. So much more flexible

Im currently on Pescatarian diet, so plants and fish, but planning to go back to Vegan from March.

I think people generally believe what they want to believe when it comes to diet. If people like eating Steak and Cheese they will find some literature online that makes them comfortable eating them.

When in reality farmed red meat and dairy are absolutely horrendous for your blood pressure and heart health.

When it comes to exercise, aswell as enough cardio to fulfill your role in the team I would recommend thinking about exercises specific to your role. For example - a keeper may benefit from different types of weighted squats, explosive power from the legs etc.

I think you are right regarding people believe what they want to believe, but I cannot disagree strongly enough with  your comment about meat and dairy being 'horrendous' for you. There is no evidence that meat and dairy up your absolute risk of mortality or cardiovascular complications. There was a study of 51,000 people done in Japan that found absolutely no increased risk when consuming moderate amounts of meat (up to 3 oz a day). Ultimately as I've said, calories in calories out is what causes you to lose weight. I'm not saying Mcdonalds has the same nutritional value as a salad either. I'm just saying that ultimately it does not matter if you are vegan, pescatarian, vegetarian etc etc. It's about finding something that is sustainable and works for you rather than scare mongering one way or the other.
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2020, 11:30:38 AM »

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-019-0552-0

Interesting research summation on vegan benefits proven or unproven

Interesting. But, it's incredible easy to make the research fit an agenda.

Case in point:
https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2752328/unprocessed-red-meat-processed-meat-consumption-dietary-guideline-recommendations-from
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2020, 11:31:53 AM »

Have a watch of The Gamechangers on Netflix (https://gamechangersmovie.com/) - certainly makes you think about the benefits of veganism. Not that I'm going to go that way, I'm eating less meat than I did.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2020, 11:35:27 AM »

Have a watch of The Gamechangers on Netflix (https://gamechangersmovie.com/) - certainly makes you think about the benefits of veganism. Not that I'm going to go that way, I'm eating less meat than I did.

I was waiting for someone to bring this up. Game changers is totally and wholeheartedly rubbish. It is a propaganda film that uses really underhanded tactics, such as creating false dichotomies, logical fallacies and it also cherry picks studies and misreports their findings, in order to further its own agenda of veganism (the director owns a vegan protein company - James Cameron).

I'm not saying veganism is a bad thing. I absolutely don't think it is at all, I think it's great for the environment and I also thing that if you can make it work for you then great. I just have a real problem with crappy misinformation being put out there.

Watch this video on it if you want to know how I've got to this opinion:
https://youtu.be/R6Ju_HdWB0Y
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2020, 11:41:56 AM »

I think you are right regarding people believe what they want to believe, but I cannot disagree strongly enough with  your comment about meat and dairy being 'horrendous' for you. There is no evidence that meat and dairy up your absolute risk of mortality or cardiovascular complications. There was a study of 51,000 people done in Japan that found absolutely no increased risk when consuming moderate amounts of meat (up to 3 oz a day). Ultimately as I've said, calories in calories out is what causes you to lose weight. I'm not saying Mcdonalds has the same nutritional value as a salad either. I'm just saying that ultimately it does not matter if you are vegan, pescatarian, vegetarian etc etc. It's about finding something that is sustainable and works for you rather than scare mongering one way or the other.

I wont go into the tit for tat against dairy and farmed meat on this page as its not really the place for it. I know that I feel alot better for not eating it, thats all that really matters. And if someone had told me that 2 years ago I wouldn't have believed them.

Correct. Calories are the main thing of you simply want to lose weight.

This wasnt my sole agenda however, it was more about a much healthier lifestyle, better gut health, longevity etc.

I dont think you will find anyone who has been Vegan for longer than a month that doesnt feel in better health, with fat loss as a pleasant side effect
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 11:44:51 AM »

Think I may have to build myself up to 100 push ups and sit ups!

Thanks for the juice recommendation.
Try doing 10 push ups 10 body squats as 1 set without rest. then rest to catch your breath. I try to get 100 done with 4 or 5 set at once.
Veganism is rubbish as it's full of soya that is no good in your case. Unless you good do veganism Indian style where lentils and vegs are cooked as primary food.
As dairy try find local farm where you could buy raw milk. I am lucky to have farm local to me where I buy my milk. But you should limit your dairy. You can make paneer(cheese) out of raw milk that is sufficient source of protein.
I will cut out eating out all together as everything is cooked in vegetable oil that has no nutrition value at all but synthetically produced. Cook your food in pure butter. PM if you interested in case you wanna make your own butter it's very simple.
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2020, 11:53:30 AM »

I wont go into the tit for tat against dairy and farmed meat on this page as its not really the place for it. I know that I feel alot better for not eating it, thats all that really matters. And if someone had told me that 2 years ago I wouldn't have believed them.

Correct. Calories are the main thing of you simply want to lose weight.

This wasnt my sole agenda however, it was more about a much healthier lifestyle, better gut health, longevity etc.

I dont think you will find anyone who has been Vegan for longer than a month that doesnt feel in better health, with fat loss as a pleasant side effect

Again I have no problem with veganism if it is sustainable for you individually. I disagree that everyone feels better on a vegan diet, you may do and that's great. Anyhow, my initial point was that the OP needs to hop onto any diet that will make it easier to stick to a caloric limit. And to throw in some cardio to help his performance
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2020, 05:57:11 PM »

My fitness at the moment is pretty poor due to having a bit of a f**k it year due to having a scare with the Big C, basically living life to the fullest and now I'm suffering because of it athletically. However I'm trying to do a bit more (running etc..) to improve this, I don't want to go to the gym and bore myself to death, if I had a specific plan or set of exercises geared towards cricket (mainly batting) it would give me that extra motivation.

Has anyone got a plan they use and would be willing to share?

As someone who survived the big C, I can tell you its been a pain for me to get back into shape, even after a couple of years. What has worked for me though, cardio at home about 15mins a day on an elliptical and I go to the gym three times for the week. As someone suggested, I do strictly compound exercises and usually stay at the gym 30-45 mins max. Theres a free app that I use (StrongLifts 5x5) that helps to track your progress and sets your routine for the day. Basically, each time you to the gym you have to complete three exercises and alternates between squats, bench press, over head press, barbell rows and deadlifts. Its a bit of fun and over before you know it.

Hope this helps...
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2020, 06:11:45 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/user/KozakSportsPerform/playlists -  I do their kickboxing videos on rainy days when I cant go out. Most of the videos use minimum equipment. 
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Re: Specific gym exercises for cricket.
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2020, 06:17:18 PM »

I was waiting for someone to bring this up. Game changers is totally and wholeheartedly rubbish. It is a propaganda film that uses really underhanded tactics, such as creating false dichotomies, logical fallacies and it also cherry picks studies and misreports their findings, in order to further its own agenda of veganism (the director owns a vegan protein company - James Cameron).


James Cameron , producer of the epic poo movie Titanic?

I work out regularly and my body feels so much better when I eat meat. I tried vegan/plant based diet but I never felt like I had enough energy. Also, there is this claim that you can get protein from "peanut butter". Well, peanut butter lacks the amino acids that are present in meat. It was because of absurd claims like that and how I felt, I dropped the vegan diet.
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2020, 06:17:25 PM »

We gotta remember he mentioned cancer in his life. So due to that his immunity and recovery time will be suffering. We can not suggest him hardcore workouts where his body struggle to recover. I believe he gotta build his stamina, immunity that will help his recovery time. There start with basic workout and diet.
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2020, 06:22:33 PM »

My fitness at the moment is pretty poor due to having a bit of a f**k it year due to having a scare with the Big C, basically living life to the fullest and now I'm suffering because of it athletically. However I'm trying to do a bit more (running etc..) to improve this, I don't want to go to the gym and bore myself to death, if I had a specific plan or set of exercises geared towards cricket (mainly batting) it would give me that extra motivation.

Has anyone got a plan they use and would be willing to share?

Kettle bells.

Long time ago, there was a discussion in this forum about kettle bells and cricket fitness. Kettle bell training was the best program to start my fitness training. It helped me develop strength and endurance without killing myself. It is an easy program to start, you need minimal equipment, and you can do it in your house.
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