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DorsetDan

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Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« on: January 22, 2020, 05:57:59 PM »

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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2020, 06:00:04 PM »

How many pros regularly hit the toe though? Plus they don't need to worry about longevity of the bat or damage to the toe.
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 06:24:39 PM »

Possibly likes the balance better with a bit of extra weight down the bat? At that level I reckon it's all about feel, much more so than for your average club player.
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 06:28:07 PM »

Spine into the toe, for me, as it does add pick up, plus bat or responsive very near to the toe, don't know if it adds durability, though
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 06:42:17 PM »

It is a fashion thing in my view. I used to love a bat with a whale tail, now I am not such a big fan... pretty sure I did a thread on this a while back (think 7 years...😂)

Here we go. Gutted the pictures aren't showing...
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=17484.0
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2020, 07:02:31 PM »

Ive gotta say first of all,,,thats a lovely bat qdc is using

Personally, I honestly dont care on the whole shape /profile side of it.
The reason I moved over to the duckbill profile was after seeing a kohli bat,(please dont question me on its authenticity etc) ,this particular bat picked up nice, whilst still having plenty of wood across the toe.
I copied it, but kept the toe thicker, and rounded the toe edges off.
My new bat profile

Tbh its nothing new,,,every man and his dog uses the same profile these days, and probably has since the law changes.

As for spine into the toe,,,,to me they look prettier,,,theres possibly more skill involved in shaping them,,,its definitely a fine line between pick up/balance/etc,,,,with many manufacturers really thinning the toe profile out to create this profile

Its a great topic Dan for sure, and Im sure most will have their favourite for many reasons.

Its funny, I was repairing a lovely redback this week that has the spine into the toe profile, and I was thinking what a pain it was to sand it.

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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2020, 07:07:09 PM »



Not sure if that shows it?

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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2020, 07:09:09 PM »



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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2020, 07:28:11 PM »

I have coupe of both shapes and personally both the duck bill shaped bats pick up better but ping wise not much in it. I do agree that they look thinner and not as big in the stance as a duckbill shape but that may be because mine have square toes as well as the duckbill toe.

Iv heard this toe more prone to break line but so far having mainly used a duckbill shape as my match bat for the last few seasons not broke one yet so as has been said I think if a toe will go it will be down to the ball used, pace and how hard you try and hit it and wont make a difference if your bat is full spine or not.
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2020, 08:18:08 PM »

Seems like you hate that QDK GM and need to shift it on...?
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2020, 09:24:14 PM »

I've never liked spine into the toe bats, ever. Kay never looked right to my eye but don't feel they have positive or negative performance benefits personally. Its more about the visual for me and just don't like the look odd them.

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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2020, 10:25:02 PM »

^ Completely agree. But then I used some and loved the bats (the QDK PE excluded). Bats are strange :D

Whereas the owners are "perfectly normal"  ;)
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2020, 10:59:37 PM »

I have never really liked the spine into the toe profile as the ones I have used have tended to compensate for more wood in  the centre, the corners are more vulnerable.  The more even distribution in a duck bill toe seems more robust to me
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2020, 11:28:36 PM »

I would also add that the other minus point in my mind about the Icon/ Paragon/ new Finback style shape is @Six Sixes Cricket calling them "a bowlers bat shape" :D
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Re: Spine in to the toe... love it or hate it?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2020, 01:01:16 AM »

In my experience, spine into toe works really well with high middle bats (CAs for example usually have this set up and pick up like a dream, with a long hitting area).. it doesnt quite work with a lower middle (pickup too heavy).
Also, by definition, a bat with spine running into the toe is going to have some concaving, which all else being equal, leads to lighter pickup.

Its not a terrible feature to have - as long as the balance and pickup are still good.
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