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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2020, 03:42:36 PM »

That's fine and I don't really disagree with you.  There will be people who have the time, patience and ability to wade through all the lower grade bats and pick out the odd hidden gem/performer.

Then there will also be people who either can't, don't have time to, or just enjoy the cachet in having the bat maker declare the bat as prestigious example; and will pay accordingly for it.  As a business, why not cater for them. Especially in todays internet shopping era.

r.e your example - It's hard to say with the fibre sheet on it but to my eye the willow looks bleached?
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Don't see any comparison with Kooks to M&H, sorry for that.
M&H is most likely hand made, better quality willow, I better care taken while pressing by M&H! I t's not only about grains, as I've with 6 grains which is really remarkable, least to say.
I agree with surrey Sam on this.
My only point is it's pricing, when most of us see 6 grains, we will turn away looking for more grains,but one's who are more experienced and financially better off will probably check them out 🙂
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2020, 03:51:55 PM »

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Don't see any comparison with Kooks to M&H, sorry for that.
M&H is most likely hand made, better quality willow, I better care taken while pressing by M&H! I t's not only about grains, as I've with 6 grains which is really remarkable, least to say.
I agree with surrey Sam on this.
My only point is it's pricing, when most of us see 6 grains, we will turn away looking for more grains,but one's who are more experienced and financially better off will probably check them out 🙂

I wouldn't be so sure it's been preSSed by m&h or even made there if I were you
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2020, 04:00:26 PM »

I wouldn't be so sure it's been preSSed by m&h or even made there if I were you
Not sure if M&H have pressed it
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2020, 05:08:38 PM »

M&H bats are made in india by FC Sondhi. Confirmed by my local retailer who stocks them. Quality controlled by M&H representatives regularly. Same with L&W. The new indian made ones are made at Sondhi and James regularly visits for QA/QC
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2020, 06:21:05 PM »

M&H bats are made in india by FC Sondhi. Confirmed by my local retailer who stocks them. Quality controlled by M&H representatives regularly. Same with L&W. The new indian made ones are made at Sondhi and James regularly visits for QA/QC

Im not sure that is totally correct...I dont know for sure but I understand actual making of the bats is UK and India-not just India

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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2020, 07:30:13 PM »

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Don't see any comparison with Kooks to M&H, sorry for that.
M&H is most likely hand made, better quality willow, I better care taken while pressing by M&H! I t's not only about grains, as I've with 6 grains which is really remarkable, least to say.
I agree with surrey Sam on this.
My only point is it's pricing, when most of us see 6 grains, we will turn away looking for more grains,but one's who are more experienced and financially better off will probably check them out 🙂

Kook are also hand made, in fact both are hand made just depends of you believe that M&H are U.K. or not but kook do not CNC make there bats. As for pressing Iv been to M&H when on holiday a couple of years ago and took in a T20s at Taunton and I could not see a press there. As for willow I can assure you Kook will get far superior willow to probably anyone else as they are the worlds biggest cricket bat brand. So basically your point about M&H being superior to kook is arguably total rubbish. Except for the point on price M&H will pull your pants down a spank you for serious money for the privilege of having there stickers on your bat or so you can say you have a 500 bat. Nearly everyone else in the market wont.
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2020, 08:16:05 PM »

No, I meant the kook which soulman was comparing to M&H,
Otherwise genuine grade 1 bat will performs as any other grade 1 bat, whoever produces bats,  but then all is about pressing.
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2020, 08:34:21 PM »

Ive never had a bad M&H and the chaps there really are very helpful with repairs & advice.
But as a lover of a bargain and a refurb I have not got one of the new Uber expensive ones

The cricket bat market is no different to the car market or the tech market - you pay your money and you choose your brand, Im not sure my iPhone is worth a grand, or even the best phone and yet I still bought it on launch day!!!

You can not play a game in Somerset without seeing at least 1 M&H an innings and they all seem to perform and in middle sons county development squad all the youngsters are dripping in their gear

Im not sure the typical CBF member is their market - but thank god for diversity because with lowest ever numbers of players (fact) and highest ever number of brands (guess) without a niche you wont last long

Im not sure exactly what happens in their workshop but this photo makes it pretty transparent to me...

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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2020, 08:54:09 PM »

Looks like there's a cricket bat press in that picture. How often it's used is another topic.
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2020, 10:35:41 PM »

The thing about it is that I think it is misleading, regardless of price.
They are holding themselves out as making bats when in truth they are importing bats either from Sondhi or SS.

It is one thing to be honest and say I import bats and stick my stickers on. It is a different ball game to say you hand make the bats yourselves.
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Re: Could this be the most overpriced G3/G4 ever?
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2020, 10:49:47 PM »

I guess at the end of the day there will be some that think M&H are great bats and dont really care about the how etc and then there are the others that find this kind of misleading advertisement as annoying or just plain wrong etc. I know for example if I was a Kember or Aldred or Matt Barton etc I would be very annoyed to be compared to Rob the master bat maker at M&H. I have certainly on my two visits to M&H in my life time ever seen a stack or clefts like I have seen at every other U.K. making brand and i cant find any pics or insight from them with anything regarding a raw cleft to finished bat process.

Would like to point out never said they were bad bats, just a bad company moral wise 
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