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Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« on: January 24, 2020, 01:05:22 PM »

From their insta pages. It doesnt look like they're TK made anymore. I also recently saw a guy at nets wielding a phantom dark edition which definitely wasn't TK.
Any leads on to where they moved production to? One guy told me its Robinsons in India.



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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2020, 01:11:30 PM »

In top photo of phantom and one of pryzm shows grips are definitely Indian. Well to my eyes
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2020, 01:30:46 PM »

Well spotted, these MSD Luxe bats are indeed Indian made (and some Instinct bats in the sale) - however I can confirm that our main range of bats will be made by our usual batmaker (I'm sure most know who that is) in the UK. We had a sample order of bats in from a very well known Indian bat maker to see what the quality is like - and they are really good. One of the Worcestershire pros who we've just agreed to sponsor is currently using a couple of the Indian made Instinct shape bats and I've had really good feedback from him.
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2020, 01:49:10 PM »

Indian made bats are as good as any other make globally. Things like twine quality handle quality is what sets each apart. But if you could hand pick or trust someone then no issues buying /using indian/english/aus made after all english willow is being used as main ingredient.
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2020, 03:14:45 PM »

Think a lot of people's problem with Indian batmakers is finding their bats from a reliable source which will provide a level of reassurance and customer service.
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2020, 03:27:13 PM »

Nothing against indian made bats. I love my RS and SS bats as much as the english made ones. They provide excellent value for money. Charging 400 quid for an indian made model that used to be UK made last year requires a bit of a justification though. Especially when that same indian made can be sourced from india for half the price. In this regard i really respect pryzm because the indian made luxe bats are priced a lot lower than their regular bats.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2020, 08:12:28 PM »

Nothing against indian made bats. I love my RS and SS bats as much as the english made ones. They provide excellent value for money. Charging 400 quid for an indian made model that used to be UK made last year requires a bit of a justification though. Especially when that same indian made can be sourced from india for half the price. In this regard i really respect pryzm because the indian made luxe bats are priced a lot lower than their regular bats.

Trust me, this isn't correct - the majority of quality indian suppliers are just as expensive, if not more expensive, than a fair few UK batmakers.
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2020, 08:33:08 PM »

Indian made bats are as good as any other make globally. Things like twine quality handle quality is what sets each apart. But if you could hand pick or trust someone then no issues buying /using indian/english/aus made after all english willow is being used as main ingredient.

Totally agree. Tonight I was comparing my TK made Mighty Willow with my trusted MRF Grand Edition at the nets (see numerous proud posts about these...) . The TK is still being knocked in but at the moment it is not hitting the ball as well as the MRF. I also made the mistake of trying it against new balls and some cracks have appeared when I got a thick edge. Lots of superglue and sanding when I got back. The Mrf really flies even when you hit it off the toe. This is actually Risky because I sometimes get out reaching for the bad ball but also leads to some very unlikely boundaries. I'm hoping the TK will overtake it with time, but currently not so.
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2020, 08:52:07 PM »

Trust me, this isn't correct - the majority of quality indian suppliers are just as expensive, if not more expensive, than a fair few UK batmakers.
Top end bats are same price everywhere. If you spending top dollar then spend local. India come in play when buying with small budget. Anyway phantom or pryzm look class wherever they made.
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2020, 09:18:25 PM »

Top end bats are same price everywhere. If you spending top dollar then spend local. India come in play when buying with small budget. Anyway phantom or pryzm look class wherever they made.

Whilst I agree to some extent, I've seen plenty of bats from various UK and Indian suppliers and some of the best have been Indian made - it's purely down to the craftsman behind the tools in my opinion.

Price wise there's very little difference unless you're talking Kashmir Willow vs English Willow, but I don't have much experience with this for obvious reasons
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2020, 10:18:04 PM »

How many UK batmakers are there making for  'other brands' - on a reasonably large scale, I mean?
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 10:29:56 PM »

On a truly large scale, not many - but I'm aware of at least 7 that will work with other brands (no doubt there's more out there too)
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2020, 10:33:44 PM »

Whilst I agree to some extent, I've seen plenty of bats from various UK and Indian suppliers and some of the best have been Indian made - it's purely down to the craftsman behind the tools in my opinion.

Price wise there's very little difference unless you're talking Kashmir Willow vs English Willow, but I don't have much experience with this for obvious reasons

Not Kashmir willow. For example look at pic. These are English willow direct from India at low end price.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 10:42:51 PM »

Totally agree. Tonight I was comparing my TK made Mighty Willow with my trusted MRF Grand Edition at the nets (see numerous proud posts about these...) . The TK is still being knocked in but at the moment it is not hitting the ball as well as the MRF. I also made the mistake of trying it against new balls and some cracks have appeared when I got a thick edge. Lots of superglue and sanding when I got back. The Mrf really flies even when you hit it off the toe. This is actually Risky because I sometimes get out reaching for the bad ball but also leads to some very unlikely boundaries. I'm hoping the TK will overtake it with time, but currently not so.
How many season old is mrf?
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Re: Phantom and Pryzm moved production from UK?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2020, 12:09:40 AM »

Used for one season so far plus winter and summer nets. Going strong. Very early days for the Mighty Willow, so may well develop into something interesting too
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