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Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« on: February 12, 2020, 11:20:55 AM »

Hi all,

I have a Paceman Strike and I am between either selling it or starting to use it outdoors in the drier months.

I've never used it outside as the battery kits are so expensive but it makes sense to either do that or sell it as I have barely used it indoors since having more coaching over the Winter.

Various shops do a battery option which is essentially 1000W pure sine waver inverter and a 12V deep cycle lead acid battery. They are asking around 250, plus postage, plus the need to source a charger myself which take it all to just shy of 300.

There must be a cheaper way through ebay/ amazon, so they question is has anyone done this and is there anything to look for on the inverter/ battery capacity/ etc?

For example:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inverter-Digital-Charger-Modified-Converter/dp/B07Z423T9H/ref=sr_1_24?keywords=1000W+pure+sine+wave+inverter&qid=1581506829&sr=8-24
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leisure-Battery-SuperBatt-Caravan-Motorhome/dp/B00WPWFN6M/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=12V+deep+cycle+lead+acid+battery&qid=1581507273&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BUDDYGO-Maintainer-Automatic-Maintain-Batteries/dp/B07T6GV32V/ref=sr_1_5?crid=33AT2E6V3HSK3&keywords=12v+battery+charger&qid=1581507057&sprefix=12v+%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-5

Thanks!
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 11:31:52 AM »

Can you not buy an extension lead?
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 06:14:58 AM »

I think you've pretty much got it covered there.  The Inverter and charger will do the job fine.
The battery may be overkill for the needs of a paceman. 
Those larger truck size (N70) batteries are fairly heavy to cart around.   No point lugging big batteries around if a small one will run for long enough.

Some quick math, if the paceman takes a full 1000w from the inverter (and it won't on average) at 220v thats 4.5A.  At 85% efficiency, thats 5.3 A the inverter will draw.
Take that 75 Ah battery and draw 5.3A, a full charge should last 14 hours.  50% draw is still 7 hours, so on those specs, that battery will be bigger than it need be.

Of course all these specs can be wildly inflated (as some reviews on that battery show!), so beware!

My biggest tip would be to get the battery on the charger ASAP after using it.
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 07:13:22 AM »

Can you not buy an extension lead?

Edit: No practical means of getting mains power at the outdoor net
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 07:38:01 AM »

I think you've pretty much got it covered there.  The Inverter and charger will do the job fine.
The battery may be overkill for the needs of a paceman. 
Those larger truck size (N70) batteries are fairly heavy to cart around.   No point lugging big batteries around if a small one will run for long enough.

Some quick math, if the paceman takes a full 1000w from the inverter (and it won't on average) at 220v thats 4.5A.  At 85% efficiency, thats 5.3 A the inverter will draw.
Take that 75 Ah battery and draw 5.3A, a full charge should last 14 hours.  50% draw is still 7 hours, so on those specs, that battery will be bigger than it need be.

Of course all these specs can be wildly inflated (as some reviews on that battery show!), so beware!

My biggest tip would be to get the battery on the charger ASAP after using it.
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 07:59:43 AM »

I bought a little petrol generator for mine. Works a treat. Pop it in a wheelbarrow and wheel it over to nets.

Really cheap and very little faff
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 09:08:40 AM »

The neighbours to the cricket club already complain about the sound of balls being hit so I’m not sure this would go down well. Im guessing it is a fair bit noisier than the machine itself? Great lateral thinking though!
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2020, 09:19:31 AM »

@Chompy9760  I went overkill on the battery as the draw of the machine and the battery performance like you say are a bit of an unknown. For the sake of 20 I figured it's better to be safe on the capacity. Weight is a good point.

The inverters look much of a muchness. I only went for 1000W as it is what retailers putting together their own kits spec. Cheapest at RS is 100gbp but I can't see a 40gbp Amazon one being an issue (maybe a touch efficiency but for this application you would never know).

I'm not sure how these retailers are selling a 40gbp max battery and 40-100gbp inverter for 250 plus postage. I feel like I must be missing something but I don't think it is any more complicated
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 09:22:18 AM »

Maybe I'll get this for the kids for Christmas :D

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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2020, 12:15:33 PM »

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I'm not sure how these retailers are selling a 40gbp max battery and 40-100gbp inverter for 250 plus postage. I feel like I must be missing something but I don't think it is any more complicated

They're just hoping that nobody works out how simple and inexpensive these things are!  Like most things, lots of $$ to be saved for anyone with the inclination to have a go.

Probably best you find a sturdy case to fit the battery and inverter in.  While lead/acid batteries are reasonably tough, they probably won't react well if they cop a few full blooded drives, and the grass will never be the same :(
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2020, 12:40:30 PM »

Paceman buying it from the same places you are looking at, adding their markup, selling to the retailer who is doing the same before selling to you.

This is why I always used to recommend a customer purchased the battery etc themselves from an electrical specialist rather than from vitas cricket as a retailer 3 steps down the chain in terms of markup.

BOLA has its own battery (the charger is just an open market version you can buy online) but Paceman are just selling the items you have found online.

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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2020, 12:41:50 PM »

250?! Yikes. Hardly a complicated bit of kit as you both say. You're right to stay away from RS, they're massively overpriced - get a substantial discount with them via work and we still only use them if we need stuff next day.
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2020, 01:19:56 PM »

Thanks all.

I used RS as the expensive end benchmark as like you say they are expensive but useful in emergencies. Even if I were to buy from them it's still half the price of a kit.

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Probably best you find a sturdy case to fit the battery and inverter in.  While lead/acid batteries are reasonably tough, they probably won't react well if they cop a few full blooded drives, and the grass will never be the same

Another good point. If I do go down this battery/ outdoor machine route then I plan to take some additional netting for the end of the net to a) stop expensive balls disappearing and b) not knock the leg of the bowling machine as it is very annoying to play a lovely straight drive and then realise the machine is now going to ping everything in to the side netting! Still worth protecting the battery though.

Are there any other battery types worth looking at that may be easier to live with should the worst happen?
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2020, 10:17:51 PM »

Are there any other battery types worth looking at that may be easier to live with should the worst happen?

Most larger battery manufacturers offer some 'gel' batteries in their range.  These have the acid in a gel/paste form rather than a liquid, so should the case fail they would be safer, but are more expensive than lead acid, so I've never owned one.
If you get a sealed, or maintenance free lead/acid type, you wont have a risk of spillage.  .
The casings are very tough, but not indestructable, so if your net protects from impact, it should be fine.
I've owned many, but I've only had one casing fail, and that was when a battery blew up during a charging accident.
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Re: Paceman Strike - Has anyone sorted a battery kit for these?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2020, 07:46:21 AM »

i had a paceman a few years ago. ran it off a battery all the time.

it was an old car battery with an inverter i picked up off ebay. worked a treat cost me very little money in the end. certainly not worth 250
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