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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1290 on: September 13, 2020, 07:42:10 PM »

Sam Curran loves the big games.
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Re: Englands international summer
« Reply #1291 on: September 13, 2020, 07:50:44 PM »

He does and hes good but its Woakes that got their 2 main scorers out who were set plus maxwell who maybe inconsistent but can def win the match for them
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Re: Englands international summer
« Reply #1292 on: September 13, 2020, 08:20:40 PM »

Once again the Aussies fall apart under pressure without Smith. Langer talks a huge game but he's an incredible fraud, with the players at his disposal the Aussies should be far better than they have performed under him.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1293 on: September 13, 2020, 08:50:02 PM »

What a difference having Morgan on the pitch as skipper, he is a match winner.
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Re: Englands international summer
« Reply #1294 on: September 13, 2020, 11:27:36 PM »

This has been such a fun series! I quite enjoy these close, tight games as opposed to a 400+ thrashing.
Awesome from Woakes, Curran, Archer and co.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1295 on: September 14, 2020, 07:09:30 AM »

Scyld Berry makes an interesting observation in the Telegraph today.
In white ball cricket Morgan gives Archer the new ball and tells him you are number 1 as a result he bowls bombs.

In the test team he bowls second or third change and is treated like a donkey.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1296 on: September 14, 2020, 07:44:45 AM »

What a difference having Morgan on the pitch as skipper, he is a match winner.
Yep ... tend to agree this is actually the difference between both these teams currently - captaincy. 

Australia have 'snatched defeat from the jaws of victory' in a chase 2x now (1st T20 as well) where they were cruising, should have won more times than not ... yet spectacularly came up short. 

England seems to have a few batsmen stuck in 2 minds between the increasing divergence between T20, ODI and red ball techniques and tactics .... and Australia ... well they only have 4 batsmen (if all play) in Warner, Finch, Smith and Laboosh.  Nobody else in that Aussie team would bat higher than a 6 in any other major nation (and that would probably be mercurial Maxwell).

I think the Aussie bowlers have been marginally better which has evened the batting depth discrepancy up a bit. 

But Morgan's marshaling of his bowlers and field setting in those chases really caused Aus to choke in 2x chases now.  All IMHO of course ;)
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1297 on: September 14, 2020, 07:46:18 AM »

Scyld Berry makes an interesting observation in the Telegraph today.
In white ball cricket Morgan gives Archer the new ball and tells him you are number 1 as a result he bowls bombs.

In the test team he bowls second or third change and is treated like a donkey.
Totally agree with this, thought it was quite telling earlier in the summer how Archer bowled very differently in the test Stokes captained.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1298 on: September 14, 2020, 07:53:15 AM »

Is it not maybe a sign that Root and Silverwood have had Archer bowling to a poor plan? He said Morgan gives him freedom to bowl what he wants and he starts bowling top of off with bouncers sprinkled in. Sounds like another "Broad is the enforcer" situation which hopefully they'll realise is idiotic now.
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Re: Englands international summer
« Reply #1299 on: September 14, 2020, 07:58:57 AM »

Little bit of a crap plan for Archer, little bit of England are still scared of taking the new ball of Broad and Anderson I think. They should know better with Archer as it's not like he hasn't delivered in tests when given the chance to lead the attack.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1300 on: September 14, 2020, 08:20:13 AM »

It is a problem with the test team attack as you have Broad, Anderson, Woakes, Archer, Wood and Curran. All of whom should get the new ball for different reasons when they play.

When we go to Aus, Archer absolutely must be given the new ball. Broad will have to be first change which will p*ss him off and probably make him bowl better. (assuming Anderson is still going...)
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1301 on: September 14, 2020, 08:54:48 AM »

It is a problem with the test team attack as you have Broad, Anderson, Woakes, Archer, Wood and Curran. All of whom should get the new ball for different reasons when they play.

When we go to Aus, Archer absolutely must be given the new ball. Broad will have to be first change which will p*ss him off and probably make him bowl better. (assuming Anderson is still going...)

And assuming that Anderson is in the hat for selection in Aus presumably? Broad seems more naturally suited to Aussie wickets, Wood's pace will be a real asset, Archer has to be given the new ball. So if Stokes is fit and able to bowl and they've settled on a spinner, does Jimmy even get into the Test side for games in Aus? Realistically leaves one bowling spot and there's a few others putting their hands up for selection.

Proper dreamland but I'd love to see Ollie Robinson given a go before too long, just such a good bowler.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1302 on: September 16, 2020, 12:03:33 PM »

Jesus Christ
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Re: Englands international summer
« Reply #1303 on: September 16, 2020, 12:05:07 PM »

Wow
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1304 on: September 16, 2020, 12:10:40 PM »

Going to be a good game now. Let's see how Morgan does against the new ball. This is where I think he is a place high at 4. Having Stokes in now would be rather more reassuring.
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