Advertise on CBF

Poll

What should happen with teas from next year?

Go back to normal teas
- 18 (38.3%)
Keep current bring your own food setup
- 22 (46.8%)
Dont care!
- 7 (14.9%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Voting closed: August 18, 2020, 07:46:59 AM

Pages: 1 ... 6 7 [8]

Author Topic: Teas after COVID-19  (Read 9650 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Jimbo

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1560
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #105 on: December 01, 2020, 12:12:22 PM »

I think the confusion has come from the term groundsman. I think most would read into that term, rightly or wrongly, more than just cutting, rolling and maintaining the square, particularly given that this individual is paid a fair chunk of cash.
Logged

edge

  • Moderator
  • World Cup Winner
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 4563
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #106 on: December 01, 2020, 12:16:15 PM »

I think the confusion has come from the term groundsman. I think most would read into that term, rightly or wrongly, more than just cutting, rolling and maintaining the square, particularly given that this individual is paid a fair chunk of cash.
Only at a club big or lucky enough to have a full time groundsman. I've played for/against plenty of clubs that pay someone who knows what they're doing to look after the square while members take care of donkey work like cutting the outfield and tidying hedges. Would have thought for a 2 team club with their own ground it's probably a very common arrangement.
Logged
HS: 156, BB: 7-20

Jimbo

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1560
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #107 on: December 01, 2020, 12:25:27 PM »

Possibly just my experience of Scottish club cricket talking but very few clubs I know of are paying in the multiple thousands for someone just to handle the square. Different situation with it being a parks club on a small budget I would guess. Interesting stuff.
Logged

SLA

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 755
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #108 on: December 01, 2020, 12:48:19 PM »

Only at a club big or lucky enough to have a full time groundsman. I've played for/against plenty of clubs that pay someone who knows what they're doing to look after the square while members take care of donkey work like cutting the outfield and tidying hedges. Would have thought for a 2 team club with their own ground it's probably a very common arrangement.

The "does your club have a fulltime groundsman" discussion is very much like the "does your club have a bar" discussion, or the "does your club have an annual turnover greater than 20,000", or the "does your club pay professional umpires" discussion.

There are a few members on this forum who clearly pay for very big, rich clubs who for some reason become extremely angry when it is suggested that actually, the majority of cricket clubs are not like that.

The majority of cricket clubs around the UK are actually pretty small, with either 1 or 2 teams, and they either don't have their own ground or if they do, its just a field with a glorified shed next to it. If you play for a big premier league club, good for you, but you're the exception here, 90% of club cricketers don't.


Logged
T20 cricket 1995-present, Saturday league cricket 1997-present.
L3 Cricket Coach, L2 Baseball Coach.
Running total: Countries played cricket in: 7. Counties played cricket in: 14

SurreySam

  • First XI Captain
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 282
  • Trade Count: (+1)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #109 on: December 01, 2020, 09:36:41 PM »

I think the confusion has come from the term groundsman. I think most would read into that term, rightly or wrongly, more than just cutting, rolling and maintaining the square, particularly given that this individual is paid a fair chunk of cash.

Careful...us groundsmen can be awfully grumpy at times!!!

Groundsman = Someone who ensures all the necessary work to a cricket ground is either carried out or contracted out to professionals, who will undertake the necessary work required.

Professional Groundsman = Someone who is paid to do the above.
Logged

Jimbo

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1560
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #110 on: December 01, 2020, 10:33:32 PM »

Careful...us groundsmen can be awfully grumpy at times!!!

Groundsman = Someone who ensures all the necessary work to a cricket ground is either carried out or contracted out to professionals, who will undertake the necessary work required.

Professional Groundsman = Someone who is paid to do the above.

I agree with your definition, but I'm not sure in the case described previously that the bloke in question ensures that any work is contracted out to professionals if it's the council showing up to cut the outfield. Think that's maybe where wires got crossed about amounts of money involved, etc.
Logged

LockieEP

  • Club Cricketer
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 103
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #111 on: December 02, 2020, 06:26:51 PM »

Tea-gate update!

After a re-vote, all Sussex league cricket teams will be required to provide teas for league matches. Its all been a bit of a farce TBH
Logged

SLA

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 755
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #112 on: December 02, 2020, 06:31:05 PM »

Tea-gate update!

After a re-vote, all Sussex league cricket teams will be required to provide teas for league matches. Its all been a bit of a farce TBH

It is a bit of a farce, tbh I can't see teas lasting much longer. Its a significant expense, a massive hassle and a huge waste of time in the middle of each match, for something that only a small proportion of players actually want!
Logged
T20 cricket 1995-present, Saturday league cricket 1997-present.
L3 Cricket Coach, L2 Baseball Coach.
Running total: Countries played cricket in: 7. Counties played cricket in: 14

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1855
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #113 on: December 02, 2020, 06:39:17 PM »

Tea-gate update!

After a re-vote, all Sussex league cricket teams will be required to provide teas for league matches. Its all been a bit of a farce TBH

That's crazy..... was the vote that close in the 1st place?

I wonder if the re-vote result will make the BBC website 🤔
Logged

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7011
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #114 on: December 02, 2020, 06:56:11 PM »

Very surprising.....where Sussex go others will follow I'm sure. :)

Much as I like the tea break as a chance to chat/vape/sandwich and have a rest(!) I can easily see no tea breaks as the way forward to shorten the game...it's heading to shorter matches isn't it...

Have the old members come out fighting in the Downs? tradionalists win the day after all. We must find out more.

I foresee an EGM  :(
Logged

ProCricketer1982

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7200
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #115 on: December 02, 2020, 09:13:27 PM »

WEPL are canvassing clubs currently. Hopefully teas are scrapped but doubt they will be. Our team was 9-2 to keep teas
Logged

t2ylo

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 838
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #116 on: December 02, 2020, 09:39:49 PM »

After a summer off the tea ladies (and gents) might be the hardest of all to get back to cricket...
They have glimpsed a summer without sandwiches, sausage rolls & washing up.

Logged
Cricket is battle and service and sport and art

Douglas Jardine

KettonJake

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 664
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Teas after COVID-19
« Reply #117 on: December 02, 2020, 11:23:24 PM »

Pages: 1 ... 6 7 [8]
 

Advertise on CBF