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Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« on: September 06, 2020, 01:20:07 PM »

Hi all

Just wanted to find out if couple of cracks on the edge of the bat are anything to worry about. See pics below.

Also, i have noticed that there are holes on the side of the bat (havent seen in my other bats) but i believe these are just naturally occurring in the wood?

https://ibb.co/QK5WcLq

https://ibb.co/3W1Mtjt

https://ibb.co/YjwhQDY

https://ibb.co/sp7PSN6

Lastly, i have searched a lot but cant find anywhere but when i do a ball ping test on this bat, although it pings fine, i just feel that it sounds a bit hollow compared to my other bats which feel solid and sound heavier. Have people experienced this with their bats and what are your views on this? I have knocked this quite a bit but it still feels soft and i m not getting any indentations, and neither do i get seam marks when i bounce the ball...

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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2020, 01:57:34 PM »

Hi all

Just wanted to find out if couple of cracks on the edge of the bat are anything to worry about. See pics below.

Also, i have noticed that there are holes on the side of the bat (havent seen in my other bats) but i believe these are just naturally occurring in the wood?

https://ibb.co/QK5WcLq

https://ibb.co/3W1Mtjt

https://ibb.co/YjwhQDY

https://ibb.co/sp7PSN6

Lastly, i have searched a lot but cant find anywhere but when i do a ball ping test on this bat, although it pings fine, i just feel that it sounds a bit hollow compared to my other bats which feel solid and sound heavier. Have people experienced this with their bats and what are your views on this? I have knocked this quite a bit but it still feels soft and i m not getting any indentations, and neither do i get seam marks when i bounce the ball...

Thanks

All the pics are fine. The cracks are very fine - you can superglue and tape them up. I dont see any holes - those black marks are quite normal.

Cant say much about the sound - but if there are no more indentations then the bat is fully knocked in.
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2020, 03:39:08 PM »

All the pics are fine. The cracks are very fine - you can superglue and tape them up. I dont see any holes - those black marks are quite normal.

Cant say much about the sound - but if there are no more indentations then the bat is fully knocked in.

ok, thanks for your response. appreciate it.

I have uploaded 2 videos below. First one is the bat which sounds a bit shallow to me and doesn't feel solid. Not sure if you can hear it. It is hard to capture the sound and feel on camera.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TbLzJLWjaoSPH_ufiYIum9my3Mvqx_sQ/view

Second bat just feels and sounds right and solid. see below:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eePmfK-JvosQpBwDkaMUuP0BfLir4Kw7/view

Hopefully you can hear the hollowness in the first bat otherwise i guess it is what it is...

Thanks
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2020, 05:26:03 PM »

Nothing to worry about IMO.. .super glue then sand and then tape it !

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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 10:34:37 AM »

Thanks for the response.

I did a net session with the bat and the crack has actually gotten worse:

https://ibb.co/NxfdKQJ

https://ibb.co/jTSRqrk

https://ibb.co/qWbVdWL

https://ibb.co/RCSKXhK

Does this need to be looked at properly or can it still be fixed at home?

Also, regarding super glue, do I need to just put glue on top of the cracks or do I need to open up the crack and try filling it inside?

When you say sand and tape, presumably you mean once the glue is dry, sand it and then put edge tape / anti scuff?

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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2020, 11:22:31 AM »

Does the crack close when you press on it?.
Yes - prise open the crack with a table knife, stuff in as much PVA glue as possible, using another long, blunt thin object to push the glue as deep as possible. Wipe away any excess. Use brown parcel tape to tightly wrap around the repair, this will keep it clamped as the glue dries. Wait overnight. Remove tape and sand.
No - carefully add superglue to the cracks, the glue will get drawn into the crack somewhat.

If there is a hollow sound to the damaged area AND the cracks wont move when pressed then it may need more experienced hands.
Hope that helps, so long as you dont cut anything or drill any holes most attempts at repairs are fairly easily reversed.
Good luck.
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2020, 12:49:46 PM »

Thanks mate. i'll give it a go but might just give it to someone to look at it. Havent done this before so dont want to mess it up further..
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2020, 11:05:24 PM »

Does the crack close when you press on it?.
Yes - prise open the crack with a table knife, stuff in as much PVA glue as possible, using another long, blunt thin object to push the glue as deep as possible. Wipe away any excess. Use brown parcel tape to tightly wrap around the repair, this will keep it clamped as the glue dries. Wait overnight. Remove tape and sand.
No - carefully add superglue to the cracks, the glue will get drawn into the crack somewhat.

If there is a hollow sound to the damaged area AND the cracks wont move when pressed then it may need more experienced hands.
Hope that helps, so long as you dont cut anything or drill any holes most attempts at repairs are fairly easily reversed.
Good luck.


Isnt rocket science for this repair mate... have a look at this video... u will have a pretty good idea of how to do it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRfveMrfhiw

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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2020, 05:27:38 PM »


Isnt rocket science for this repair mate... have a look at this video... u will have a pretty good idea of how to do it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRfveMrfhiw

Thanks - this video is very useful.

I understand this can be done for the light cracks that i have on the edges.

Can i also pour glue and just sand for the bigger crack at the toe? see below:

https://ibb.co/NxfdKQJ

https://ibb.co/jTSRqrk

https://ibb.co/qWbVdWL

https://ibb.co/RCSKXhK

From Paul's video, looks like i just need to glue and sand while it is wet and no need to clamp/tape to put pressure on the cracks?
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2020, 05:36:55 PM »

If you can open it up it will enable you to get the glue in further. If you use PVA it needs clamping. Superglue sets quicker and if the cracks dont move then the clamps wont hold the joint together so are pointless.
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2020, 11:04:16 PM »

Guru, how long do you put the clamp on?
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2020, 05:35:29 AM »

Ideally you should clamp it for 24hrs. But overnight is fine
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2020, 08:20:56 AM »

I am just busy 'refreshing' a bat for somebody else and just repaired similar cracks to the ones you have.

In this case on the edge about half-way up stickers to shoulder.  I imagine the he fended a rising ball and caught it on the inside edge where it was not as well knocked (and maybe not as well oiled either and a bit dry due to being on a sliver of wood between stickers on face and sticker on side?) causing a 'spider web' of cracks on the edge and face.

Cracks didn't really pry up although I could just snag my nail into the entrances.  Took the decision to not open it them up further.

Used super glue and dotted it on the cracks and massaged it in.  I have done this before to bigger cracks in a toe and I think the secret is getting the modelling *very runny* super glue - similar to the stuff used for 'welding plastics' with baking soda (if you are familiar with it) that you get at craft shops.  This is so runny a few dots easily gets into the crack entrances.  I am not sure that some of the other more gel-like super glues would work as well but have never tried.

After that simple exercise I could no longer snag the cracks with my nail.  Gave it a light knock over that delicate area and the cracks did not re-open at all.  So very simply rubbing (very runny) super glue in has *at least* stopped the likely growth of the cracks.

Where I am undecided is whether to add fiber edge tape.  In my mind the edge tape does little to 'reinforce' but provides a combination of cushioning and a more slippery surface to deflect the ball off the edges.

In your case where the crack seems lower I would definitely add edge tape to that.  (In my case it is a little more tricky as the edge tape would have to come high up and will look funny with a scuff sheet fitted that does not come that high)

By the way on the hollow sound.  I have one bat which has a great ping but the middle has always had a bit of a 'hollow' sound in the middle-middle.  It is also very light for its size (2-4 with same dimensions as a 2-8.5 I also have).   My suspicion is that the willow was a little overdried (deliberately or inadvertently I do not know) causing some form of 'delamination' deeper in the bat than the surface where it is usually noticeable.  Regardless it has a great (if octave lower) ping and I will enjoy it while it lasts but am not optimistic about its prospects for a long life.
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2020, 03:54:23 PM »

I am just busy 'refreshing' a bat for somebody else and just repaired similar cracks to the ones you have.

In this case on the edge about half-way up stickers to shoulder.  I imagine the he fended a rising ball and caught it on the inside edge where it was not as well knocked (and maybe not as well oiled either and a bit dry due to being on a sliver of wood between stickers on face and sticker on side?) causing a 'spider web' of cracks on the edge and face.

Cracks didn't really pry up although I could just snag my nail into the entrances.  Took the decision to not open it them up further.

Used super glue and dotted it on the cracks and massaged it in.  I have done this before to bigger cracks in a toe and I think the secret is getting the modelling *very runny* super glue - similar to the stuff used for 'welding plastics' with baking soda (if you are familiar with it) that you get at craft shops.  This is so runny a few dots easily gets into the crack entrances.  I am not sure that some of the other more gel-like super glues would work as well but have never tried.

After that simple exercise I could no longer snag the cracks with my nail.  Gave it a light knock over that delicate area and the cracks did not re-open at all.  So very simply rubbing (very runny) super glue in has *at least* stopped the likely growth of the cracks.

Where I am undecided is whether to add fiber edge tape.  In my mind the edge tape does little to 'reinforce' but provides a combination of cushioning and a more slippery surface to deflect the ball off the edges.

In your case where the crack seems lower I would definitely add edge tape to that.  (In my case it is a little more tricky as the edge tape would have to come high up and will look funny with a scuff sheet fitted that does not come that high)

By the way on the hollow sound.  I have one bat which has a great ping but the middle has always had a bit of a 'hollow' sound in the middle-middle.  It is also very light for its size (2-4 with same dimensions as a 2-8.5 I also have).   My suspicion is that the willow was a little overdried (deliberately or inadvertently I do not know) causing some form of 'delamination' deeper in the bat than the surface where it is usually noticeable.  Regardless it has a great (if octave lower) ping and I will enjoy it while it lasts but am not optimistic about its prospects for a long life.

thanks all.

thanks for this explanation. I have bought some superglue so i'll pour that on the side cracks and then sand it. They are not very deep so it should be ok. https://ibb.co/YjwhQDY

for the crack at the toe, this is where i am not sure so i'll try and pour superglue inside the crack as much as i can and then sand and maybe just put edge tape so it holds. https://ibb.co/NxfdKQJ

*fingers crossed*

Edit: on the hollow sound, you might be right that it is overdried as it is a pakistani bat!
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Re: Cricket bat minor cracks and holes
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2020, 07:55:38 PM »

Hi all

Thought i'd post it here instead of creating a new thread. My brother recently got the following SG bat and it looks like there is a crack on the edge.

Just trying to establish how to fix this? Would it just be the case of applying super glue and sanding this?

https://ibb.co/SxzGpWc

https://ibb.co/sC6PYj1

https://ibb.co/DtP4T3Q
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