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Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« on: November 10, 2020, 06:54:26 AM »

So Tim Paine just did this in the Sheffield Shield and the commentators lorded it, but I have always considered it a bit village whenever you see it tried in club cricket.

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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2020, 07:09:07 AM »

Its a wicket out of nothing, fantastic work

Its village if you throw it back past the bowler, who has already turned round, for overthrows. Just make sure you hit the stumps!
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2020, 07:15:34 AM »

Didn't give him a warning first? Disgraceful.
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2020, 08:05:01 AM »

If the batsman is batting outside his crease i think its fair game. Paine noticed he was always pushing forward. Very smart play by him
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2020, 08:23:41 AM »

Village. Not sure if the spirit of the game extends to Oz? He wasn't attempting a run and no way that's a stumping. It might be out / given out - if the square leg deems it so - but if so, I don't like it. The fielding captain could withdraw the appeal... he won't I'm sure. I'm old school and but one voice... 
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2020, 08:43:09 AM »

The bit I don't get is commentators acting like they've never seen it before at the professional level. Keepers try to sneakily underarm the stumps down all the time at every level from low club level up to internationals, the difference is normally they miss or if they do hit, the guy was well in anyway.

Its neither village nor genius, just a good shot.
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2020, 08:49:56 AM »

It's village when someones stood a few yards back to someone they should be stood up to. If stood back to a genuine quick and someone is out of their ground, then it's fair game I reckon. Wouldn't be calling it genius tho, more sloppy from the batsman.
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2020, 09:27:51 AM »

Village. Not sure if the spirit of the game extends to Oz? He wasn't attempting a run and no way that's a stumping. It might be out / given out - if the square leg deems it so - but if so, I don't like it. The fielding captain could withdraw the appeal... he won't I'm sure. I'm old school and but one voice...

If it isn't a stumping, what is it? I fail to see how a legitimate dismissal is against the spirit of the game.

I've seen it more than once in club games and it's always just been dopey by the batsman, nobody batted an eyelid or moaned about it being unfair. In one instance the kid's dad gave him a bollocking for throwing it away!
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2020, 09:37:05 AM »

Just good cricket and awareness from Paine. Absolutely nothing to do with the spirit of the game, blokes out of his crease, just like if keeper was up to the stumps and he left his ground, regardless of whether he is looking to run or not. Dont leave your crease

Its village when you see the WK  in club cricket, stood 20 yards back to a trundler and continue to throw it at the stumps most balls, overarm regardless of where the batsmen is stood
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2020, 09:37:46 AM »

Its been happening for years at all levels. Dont see the issue with it
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2020, 09:42:38 AM »

Village. Not sure if the spirit of the game extends to Oz? He wasn't attempting a run and no way that's a stumping. It might be out / given out - if the square leg deems it so - but if so, I don't like it. The fielding captain could withdraw the appeal... he won't I'm sure. I'm old school and but one voice...

How is it any different to stumping a batsman who'd tried to run down the pitch to a spinner? Batsman tried to gain an advantage, wicketkeeper noticed and stumped him. Good cricket.
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2020, 09:45:47 AM »

For those you wondering it went down as a stumping in the scorebook and also if it makes a difference Nick Larkin was on 161 at the time
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2020, 09:59:21 AM »

Don't think it particularly matters what score he was on. Every cricketer knows that if you're not in your crease then you're at risk of getting out.
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2020, 10:36:42 AM »

For anyone complaining about this, would you complain if the keeper had been stood up to the stumps?

It's the batsman's fault if he's unaware he's out his crease, not the keepers - I'd be more pissed if Paine hadn't thrown his stumps down!
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Re: Is this Village or Genius by Tim Paine??
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2020, 10:51:32 AM »

Good awareness from Paine and lapse from batsman
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