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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2020, 08:22:25 PM »

Cant help thinking JB plays his best when he may have a point to proven.

Does he think he should open? No idea a guess is  he does.

You'd have to imagine, given his record opening for England and in franchise cricket, that he would feel a bit naked to be shoved down the order.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2020, 09:19:57 PM »

You'd have to imagine, given his record opening for England and in franchise cricket, that he would feel a bit naked to be shoved down the order.

My thoughts exactly, in 50 and 20 over he's been very very good for a while now.

England don't know their best side Morgan said so himself....I don't get why Root is still around the team with the power hitters we have, Butler could really do damage up front...

Tricky.....Roy is destructive and used to opening...

The T20 WC is not that far away, like to see a settled opening pair for me. Malan is a shoe in for me-he's good short and long form.

I think Roy and Bairstow are our usual one and two, maybe Butler at 4.

Not easy picking an order when he have so many excellent batsmen
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2020, 09:24:03 PM »

Morgan at 6? Probably Englands best batsman and in some form over the last 2 years.

Wasted batting soo low
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2020, 09:38:28 PM »

You'd have to imagine, given his record opening for England and in franchise cricket, that he would feel a bit naked to be shoved down the order.

Did think it weird when he was dropped from the Sunrisers side during the IPL
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2020, 09:48:57 PM »

Did think it weird when he was dropped from the Sunrisers side during the IPL

Could just about understand that - they had five top overseas in Jonny, Warner, Kane, Holder and Rashid. Saha was the closest Indian replacement, given Warner was skipper.
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2020, 07:19:46 AM »

Can't believe SA didn't get Nortje into their side and as for bowling Klassen that over, that was just bizarre.

As for us, as long as they back Buttler opening then the top order gets compacted. I have said before that you need to look at where the WC is now, and Roy's record in India is not great, as shown yesterday, sides will just open with spin against him every game.
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2020, 09:32:43 AM »

Can't believe SA didn't get Nortje into their side and as for bowling Klassen that over, that was just bizarre.

As for us, as long as they back Buttler opening then the top order gets compacted. I have said before that you need to look at where the WC is now, and Roy's record in India is not great, as shown yesterday, sides will just open with spin against him every game.

Thats a good point and your right about that, teams could well be packed with spinners....maybe thats why Root remains in the squad, he has proved spin does not hold any fears and can rotate the strike as good as anyone Ive seen-he just does not have a power game-perhaps there is still room in Asian conditions.

Bairstow and Roy both look happier hitting against pace

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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2020, 03:00:41 PM »

Thats a good point and your right about that, teams could well be packed with spinners....maybe thats why Root remains in the squad, he has proved spin does not hold any fears and can rotate the strike as good as anyone Ive seen-he just does not have a power game-perhaps there is still room in Asian conditions.

Bairstow and Roy both look happier hitting against pace

Root isn't in the squad
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2020, 03:24:12 PM »

Root isn't in the squad

You are correct got my squads slightly mixed- 50 over only for this tour  :)

Dont generally think he fits in T20 but we will have to play spin well to progress, you can see 3 spinners against us happening(in India)
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2020, 07:29:18 PM »

I'd say he would fit in most T20 sides. I think there's a misconception that he's not suited, as he doesn't clear the ropes as much as others. However, hes an intelligent player for me in T20 and his stats aren't bad at all.
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2020, 07:40:42 PM »

Williamson is of the same elk, accumulates his t20 runs at a very decent strike rate.
Root was one of our star performers at the last t20 WC wasnt he?
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2020, 08:13:10 PM »

Williamson is of the same elk, accumulates his t20 runs at a very decent strike rate.
Root was one of our star performers at the last t20 WC wasnt he?

Top run scorer I think.
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2020, 08:55:17 PM »

Heard Root interviewed and he def wants to get into the team/squad. I don't think England see the same way for him.

Williamson is a good comparison, not sure if he skippers in T20 which would have a bearing on selection, he's a very good captain.

We will def need good players of spin in the tournament.

Tricky batting line up for us at the moment, if Root is going to play it needs to be soon.

Personally I think he is a perfect 50 batsman as well as tests, his stats in 50 overs are impressive.

The tough call is who he would replace should England have a change of heart.

Roy
Butler
Bairstow
Malan
Morgan
Stokes

That's a strong top 6...
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2020, 09:37:44 PM »

Against a spin heavy attack, he replaces Roy potentially.
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Re: SA vs Eng series
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2020, 10:05:41 PM »

Heard Root interviewed and he def wants to get into the team/squad. I don't think England see the same way for him.

Williamson is a good comparison, not sure if he skippers in T20 which would have a bearing on selection, he's a very good captain.

We will def need good players of spin in the tournament.

Tricky batting line up for us at the moment, if Root is going to play it needs to be soon.

Personally I think he is a perfect 50 batsman as well as tests, his stats in 50 overs are impressive.

The tough call is who he would replace should England have a change of heart.

Roy
Butler
Bairstow
Malan
Morgan
Stokes

That's a strong top 6...

I remember with Sunrisers was it last year maybe, Williamson started the season as skipper and scored plenty of runs until Warner came back from his ban for him to be dropped so Warner can play and skipper. If I remember rightly they managed to fit him back in later down the line. Those types of players definitely arent fancied in the IPL and the like because they would rather you score at a RR of 200 and score 18 than score 80 at a RR of 140, just for the excitement factor!
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