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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2020, 10:01:14 PM »

I'm guessing Phantom are made by B3 now. I won't add a question mark because I'm not expecting anyone to confirm.

Phantom arent U.K. made in recent times, but obviously are entitled to change this at any point.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2020, 10:04:54 PM »

They certainly were at one point fairly recently so the point still stands in terms of how important branding is to the mainstream as someone else raised the point that 99% of the players dont care about 99% of the things forum members look for in a bat.

Another point is GM certainly dont press like a barn door its a firmer press but performance wise they are as good as any out there in my opinion. They do take a little longer but for me they have the best handle shapes on the market. I would guess like most of I could I would choose my bats from the best elements of all bats if it was possible. Thats what I try and do with the bats I make. Base my handles on a thick semi oval (GM) shape wise the on trend duckbill toe, large profile and then i finish as well as I am able with my skill set and tools at present.

Horses for courses Chris, Ive had 3 and used 2 more and all of them have been over pressed - not just firmer. They were planks. Could they be exceptions? Absolutely. However Ive heard lots of reviews that echo this.

Also, I dont think Phantom have been U.K. made for at least 12-18 months, I know they use a variety of suppliers, but Ive not seen a genuine TK from them for ages.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2020, 10:10:02 PM »

Always had a soft spot for Warsop. One of my favourite bats ever was a 2.9 Marlin. Gorgeous.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2020, 10:38:12 PM »

Horses for courses Chris, Ive had 3 and used 2 more and all of them have been over pressed - not just firmer. They were planks. Could they be exceptions? Absolutely. However Ive heard lots of reviews that echo this.

Also, I dont think Phantom have been U.K. made for at least 12-18 months, I know they use a variety of suppliers, but Ive not seen a genuine TK from them for ages.

Exactly mate before last season is used GM for 3 seasons and scored as many runs as I had in previous seasons with other brands they do take a little while to really loosen up but for any GM owner its not just the pressing that handles are very stiff so if you can loosen that handle a little ie the Marnus technique on the handle at slight angle makes a world of difference.

Regardless of if Phantom are now U.K. made or TK made they certainly where at one point and the price difference between them and say BB was large for the same product.  Now lots of cricket players in fact the vast majority wont know who makes there bats and believe mostly likely that phantom do. However for most the branding Made them part with there money on top
Of the fact that they would have been decent bats. As I say though the vast vast majority of bats are good bats regardless of where they come from and regardless of whom or what made them.

Lets hope the trend reverts back to smaller U.K. bat makers on here as that allows some to start making a following at clubs and league across the country and will help keep a tradition that a lot of us like alive. However that comes at times at a little extra cost to a imported bat or sticker brand.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2020, 10:47:36 PM »

Always had a soft spot for Warsop. One of my favourite bats ever was a 2.9 Marlin. Gorgeous.
Oooh there's a blast from the past. I wanted a Warsop when I saw Napier tear it up with one on TV!
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2020, 10:59:13 PM »

I don't believe there is such a thing, as 'best batmaker' for many reasons like people have commented previously. I also don't care if the bat was CNC'd or handcrafted with a travisher and spoke shaver; for me the most accomplished bat makers, must be able to press their own bats. I also doff my hat to those who innovate within industry.


Branding plays a huge part. For example BB and Phantom are where TK made. One is 300 for G1 and the other 450 yet people are prepared to pay 150 more for the same bat but different stickers.

Don't disagree with your initial sentiment on branding.

However, lets try and be factual when throwing around figures. Having just checked the website for both vendors; a standard range G1 from BB can be purchased for 285 which is defined as LE grade and a similar G1 from Phantom, is 255 and defined as Players grade.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2020, 11:03:17 PM »

Phantom arent U.K. made in recent times, but obviously are entitled to change this at any point.

Or disappear altogether?  Like a real phantom bat brand might?
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2020, 11:09:58 PM »

I don't believe there is such a thing, as 'best batmaker' for many reasons like people have commented previously. I also don't care if the bat was CNC'd or handcrafted with a travisher and spoke shaver; for me the most accomplished bat makers, must be able to press their own bats. I also doff my hat to those who innovate within industry.


Don't disagree with your initial sentiment on branding.

However, lets try and be factual when throwing around figures. Having just checked the website for both vendors; a standard range G1 from BB can be purchased for 285 which is defined as LE grade and a similar G1 from Phantom, is 255 and defined as Players grade.

Sorry I only looked at the top end prices which was 325 and 450 for a dark edition or 550 for this anniversary model. Again the power of branding. Limited to X number etc. Only because again and its just my view there is no G1++ nonsense its just sum are nicer to look at that others or have more grains and thats a way to charge more.
Again thats just my view and personally I just Grade between G3 to G1 as thats what I buy my willow as so thats what I feel it should be sold to anyone as.

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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2020, 11:11:11 PM »

This is a tough question to narrow down. As @Buzz said it is subjective. Im rocking a Rob Pack as my main bay as of this week that will be reviewed in tomorrows bat giveaway video. I like TK and Kember made bats. Matt at H4L makes some weapons. I have purchased many B3 as i wanted input into the shape. I have used Chase. Being so far away there are many i have missed.

I think if you have the ability to visit your local maker, see their bats and chat then your going to get the most out of them.

I guess on sheer volume and experience over the years the Keeley Brothers would be hard to beat.

That said the two Rob Packs i have seen this year have been really pleasing as he has put so much work into making and preparing them and one of them is mine now 🤟
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2020, 11:18:07 PM »

If you use that many different bats, I wonder if you can really be using any of them enough to be getting the very best out of them.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2020, 11:50:17 PM »



Anybody I've missed? There is so much variety on that list, and so many great batmakers! The people I personally think we should be supporting.
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2020, 12:00:15 AM »

Robert James
Hunts County
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@Churchy1989
Chris King (GN)
JEDi
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2020, 01:06:30 AM »



Anybody I've missed? There is so much variety on that list, and so many great batmakers! The people I personally think we should be supporting.

Very much appreciate being part of that list! Thanks!
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2020, 01:30:33 AM »

Maybe the forum's going to return to what was supposed to be about?
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Re: The Best Batmaker in the UK
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2020, 08:51:21 AM »

Best batmaker in uk
Hugely subjective,, and a question I think should be asked on a custom bat forum regularly.

Not sure how youd define best, as Im sure most people have different expectations.
Me personally, as a consumer, I look at EVERYTHING, by this, I mean, the bats no good if it looks amazing but doesnt ping, either due to pressing or whatever,,,balance and pick up have to be fairly decent, handle shape/thickness,,,etc etc
The last bat I payed for and used was a H4l,,,in my eyes, the best .
Matt plays cricket, understands what a bat has to do, has access to in my eyes the best supply of willow,, and offers decent value for money.
Hence why I ONLY use him for my willow.

Ive played cricket for over 40yrs now, and had bats pass through my hands from most makers/suppliers/brands including those on previous lists..
Id say most if not all, can make a decent bat, at most price points,,,,its just that my batting needs all the help it can get, so Ive always wanted the best thats available at any one time.

Being honest here,,,,I have a B3 thats amazing, I have a GM thats amazing, I have several tk bats that are amazing, but,,theres no way,Id buy one now,,discounting the fact I can shape my own bats, the only bats I,ve consistently used/seen/tapped up are Matts at H4l, Id be happy to buy his bats sight unseen,,,,unfortunately I couldnt and wouldnt do that with any other uk bat supplier.

Indian made,,,well thats a different story, and Im sure would be a very interesting thread.

And yes,,,would be nice if we all supported uk brands,,,especially at this time, and with the fantastic choice of suppliers out there
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