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Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« on: December 30, 2020, 08:58:11 PM »

Interesting article by Nick Hoult in The Telegraph, listing the Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain.

Stokes is obviously number 1 but the order afterwards is debatable.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2020/12/30/best-30-mens-cricketers-britain/?utm_content=sport&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1609340663
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2020, 09:54:04 PM »

Love that paywall...
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2020, 09:22:52 AM »

Love that paywall...

Sorry hoped that wouldn't happen!

Full article below....

In the third of a four-part series (part one: the top 30 men's footballers in Britain, part two: The best 30 women footballers in Britain ) analysing the best players in British sport, Nick Hoult ranks the top 30 players in men's cricket. The criteria is simple: the players chosen simply have to play the vast majority of their cricket in the United Kingdom.

1. Ben Stokes
No player comes close to Stokes in terms of leadership, sheer will to win and force of personality. He is the finest allrounder in the world, a player other teams truly fear and holds Englands Ashes hopes in his hands. If he has a good start to the Ashes, then watch panic spread through the Australian team. If he struggles, it is all over for England.

2. Eoin Morgan
Holds absolute power over the white-ball team and remains a fantastic batsman in his own right despite his dodgy back. Seems determined to go on until the 2022 T20 World Cup in Australia and if his form holds, then why not longer? Morgan senses his destiny is to become the first captain to unite the two World Cups and he has the team to do it.

3. Jofra Archer
Totally in control in T20 cricket, his favourite format, but remains an enigma in the Test side. When playing Test cricket he wears the look of a man who thinks the whole world is against him and Joe Root has to become better at handling this once-in-a-generation fast bowler. Like Stokes, England do not win in Australia without Archer landing blows (literally).

4. Joe Root
Root endured a poor 2020 with the bat, his first calendar year without an international hundred, but the Test team are responding better to his leadership with series wins over South Africa, West Indies and Pakistan good progress. Has settled on a method for his team of building big scores, but legacy will depend on what happens in Australia.

5. Jos Buttler
Secured his place as a Test batsman last summer where he looked to have finally cracked how to pace an innings. Keeping remains his weakness in red ball cricket and sub-continent tours in the new year will be a real challenge. One of the worlds finest white-ball batsmen. Englands only dilemma is where to position him.

6. Stuart Broad
A stunning summer for Broad led to his nomination for Sports Personality of the Year and closed down the theory his future is tied to Anderson. Hes fit, smart with his training and no reason why he cant emulate Andersons longevity and have a couple more summers.

7. Jonny Bairstow
A recall for the Sri Lanka Test tour was an end-of-year bonus for Bairstow who remains one of the worlds best white-ball batsmen. If he can prove he has solved his technical deficiency in Test cricket then England will be a stronger side going into an Ashes year.

8. James Anderson
The hype around the 600th Test wicket appeared to affect Anderson who had a poor summer by his standards. Still a master of swing, and his artistry will be missed when it has gone. Will 2021 herald the end? It feels that way.

9. Chris Woakes
Englands player of the summer. Woakes was terrific with the ball, outbowling Anderson, and played a crucial innings in the first-Test run chase against Pakistan. A fine allrounder and good team-man.

10. Adil Rashid
His red-ball career is over but in this era of split teams it does not matter. Remains the best white ball spinner in the world and could bowl England to T20 World Cup success in India.

11. Sam Curran
At 22 and with the world at his feet, Curran showed strong signs of breaking into Englands top tier of regular multi-format players in 2020. His cutters will be important at the T20 World Cup and he has a knack of making things happen when he gets a chance in Test cricket.

12. Zak Crawley
What a year for Crawley. The first young batsman since Root to really breakthrough and could even eclipse him eventually. Possesses all the shots and an insatiable work ethic. Keep an eye on him for white-ball cricket too.

13. Ollie Pope
Second shoulder operation in 18 months is a worry and he needs protecting in the field. Such an attractive player to watch in full flow and a Crawley-Pope future really is bright one for England.

14. Dawid Malan
He continues to defy expectation and is even surprised himself to be world no 1 in T20 batting. Became consumed by worry in Test cricket but seems to thrive on having to constantly prove himself to Morgan.

15. Mark Wood
His talk of becoming a white-ball specialist is a worry but you cant blame his frustration after being man of the match in Johannesburg led to just one Test last summer. If fit, and able to handle the pressure, he could win an Ashes Test.

16. Rory Burns
A tough summer for Burns who found bubble life hard and averaged 28. Tough, doughty and reliable. He fits the mould of what England are looking for right now but has to constantly strive to be good enough at Test level.

17. Dom Sibley
Added to his off-side game last summer and is a pragmatic young player aware of his faults and willing to work on them. Will be tested by spin in the new year, and high pace in Australia. It is a big 2021 for the opener.   

18. Jason Roy
Faded in 2020 after being an integral part of the World Cup win. Appeared to be lacking in motivation last summer and then had a poor T20 series in South Africa. He will be back -  hes too good to slip away.

19. Chris Jordan
Now Englands leading T20 wicket-taker and could be a World Cup death-over hero next year. Jordan knows death bowling is precarious business and shrugs off success and failure with equal magnanimity; a crucial skill. Superb fielder.

20. Moeen Ali
Moeen had a difficult year. A Test recall for Sri Lanka (and probably India) is a last chance in the long format but conditions at the Twenty20 World Cup will suit him and when in form can hit spinners from ball one.

21. Sir Alastair Cook
22. Tom Curran
23. Simon Harmer
24. Sam Billings
25. Craig Overton
26. Dom Bess
27. Jack Leach
28. Ben Foakes
29. Dan Lawrence
30. Darren Stevens
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2020, 09:50:55 AM »

Thats a pretty lazy article. Whats the rationale for determining the best? Past performance or current performance?

If its the latter then the likes of Roy, Moeen, Leach and Root shouldnt be anywhere near the top 30. If its the former then its a bit of an insult to Cook and Anderson.

The inclusion of Darren Stevens only serves to prove how weak county cricket is, and how they rely on greentops to provide results. 
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2020, 09:55:05 AM »

Saw Bairstow at 7 and couldnt bring myself to read any further
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2020, 10:04:12 AM »

Saw Bairstow at 7 and couldnt bring myself to read any further

Bairstow is arguably our best white ball batsmen, instrumental in a world cup win 18 months ago and one of the world's finest across one day and T20 formats. He also since his debut in 2012 ranks second in test matches for runs scored and hundreds made by a wicket keeper despite a couple of recent years poor form.

He is well inside the top 10 cricketers in England if you ask me. If he isn't we are one hell of a cricketing country.
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2020, 11:21:13 AM »

Couldn't agree more about a lazy article, or perhaps it was written by Ed Smith. Just a list of England players with 1 overseas, 1 veteran and 1 uncapped player thrown in make it look like some thought has gone into it. It's like when they do equipment reviews and only list the bats they saw in the local department store.

Some players on the list aren't in the best 30 in the UK. It should include the likes of:
Sam Hain, Sam Northeast, Tom Abell, Amar Virdi, James Bracey, Ollie Robinson, Laurie Evans, Ollie Stone ...
Just a few fantastic players that are overlooked, and not just in this article.
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2020, 11:34:48 AM »

Craig Overton isn't even the best player in his family let alone one of the top 30 cricketers in the country.

His problems seem to be largely self-inflicted but I do feel that Alex Hales doesn't get the recognition he should do either for the talent he has or the contrition he has given yo England
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2020, 12:15:55 PM »

Snore. A write-up on a selection of the best players without an England contract could have been a much more interesting read.
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2020, 01:08:00 PM »

Craig Overton isn't even the best player in his family let alone one of the top 30 cricketers in the country.

His problems seem to be largely self-inflicted but I do feel that Alex Hales doesn't get the recognition he should do either for the talent he has or the contrition he has given yo England

Agree that the list overall is an absolute nonsense but COverton had a pretty strong CC season. Seems to have added a few mph without losing any control, obviously gets a lot of bounce bowling from his height and he contributed a decent amount of runs while looking pretty accomplished with the bat. Don't know that I'd argue he isn't in the top 30 in England over the last year.
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2020, 01:57:56 PM »

Yeah weird take that, if all county contracts were scratched tomorrow and the players resigned by auction it's hard to think of many domestic players who'd fetch a higher price than Craig Overton.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2020, 02:06:49 PM »

Yeah weird take that, if all county contracts were scratched tomorrow and the players resigned by auction it's hard to think of many domestic players who'd fetch a higher price than Craig Overton.

If we pretend that international cricket didn't get in the way of county cricket then obviously a lot of the centrally contracted players would get picked ahead of him but after this season you'd think he'd be one of the more sought after England fringe players.
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2020, 05:35:39 PM »

Craig Overton isn't even the best player in his family s


He is! At least he's better than Jamie. Is there someone else?
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2020, 07:26:26 PM »

Did someone really say that Joe Root shouldn't be anywhere near the best 30 cricketers in Britain? Wow!
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Re: Best 30 men's cricketers in Britain
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2020, 08:14:35 PM »

That would be mad, because clearly he is. England's test results are on a slowly improving path, but his own game is not at the level it could be at, maybe because of the captaincy. With the amount of back room staff,planning and tactical meetings in modern cricket, the role of the Captain is overrated.

Still believe Root is the most talented English born batsman I've seen since Gooch, maybe Cook.

I think all English cricket fans hope he can start putting the scores together in 2021 we think he is capable of.

Whatever the opinions on this top 30, great to see Woakes getting some recognition-seems to have been a long time coming.
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