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I think I can bat ...
« on: March 26, 2021, 08:42:37 PM »

I think I'm a batsman, they treat me as a bowler.
I've batted at almost all numbers, these days I lower than I would like to, but I do get to bowl off spin.
I would say many of us could be in this same position, are you happy at the number you bat currently?
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2021, 08:52:47 PM »

I hope this does not come across as harsh but...

Put in some hard graft and earn a position as a batsman presuming you are good enough in your own team.

First at practice, last out, more work on fitness, more talking to team mates how they approach batting, more awareness of the game situation.

The absolute worst thing you can do is say, which Ive heard many times when Captain is

You bat me 8,9 Im going to play as a tailender. That is not going to work.

If you are determined enough you will work you way up the batting order.

I opened for my second team at 17, in the ones at 18 and batted 7 for 3 years-mostly actually not getting a bat at all, because 6 others in front of me were better. I got up the order by hard work at practice.

Take control of the situation and put in some hard work.

Good luck

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2021, 08:57:09 PM »

From your skipper's point of view, have you actually asked to bat higher? Unless you're playing at a really high standard I think most captains are open to shuffling the order a little as an experiment, especially against weaker sides.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2021, 09:04:32 PM »

From your skipper's point of view, have you actually asked to bat higher? Unless you're playing at a really high standard I think most captains are open to shuffling the order a little as an experiment, especially against weaker sides.
Once opened the batting once and done so but next game lower down.
Actually I'm asking you guys if your experience, do bat the number you want or you think you should be batting higher?
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2021, 09:13:34 PM »

Well I captain my club's third team so I bat wherever I like technically 😂 but due to knowing my limitations I'd like to improve my batting enough to justify batting higher.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2021, 10:37:20 PM »

Once opened the batting once and done so but next game lower down.
Actually I'm asking you guys if your experience, do bat the number you want or you think you should be batting higher?

In most teams Ive played in, nobody wants to bat 1-2, or 7-11. Everyone wants to bat at 4-5.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2021, 12:08:43 AM »

I think I'm a batsman, they treat me as a bowler.
I've batted at almost all numbers, these days I lower than I would like to, but I do get to bowl off spin.
I would say many of us could be in this same position, are you happy at the number you bat currently?
Sometimes there not be any vacancies as the incumbents are going well. Therefore no opportunitys to nail down the position you want. You may wish to look in other teams or clubs for a chance if this is important to you. Maybe even a season in a lower grade but higher in the order to prove your point and earn your spot with lots of runs as your currency.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2021, 06:39:21 AM »

I think I'm a batsman, they treat me as a bowler.
I've batted at almost all numbers, these days I lower than I would like to, but I do get to bowl off spin.
I would say many of us could be in this same position, are you happy at the number you bat currently?

In my experience there are different types in the team -

1. Those who are batting where they want - this is only the best players in the team or the guys who genuinely realise they are rubbish and are ok to bat 11.

2. Those who aren't happy and want to bat higher - the majority of the team

3. Those who are batting out of position for the team - this is the player that has to open because the team doesn't have 2 proper openers but really should be batting 6.

4. The captain - who bats in a different spot every week to accommodate every else.

Myself, I am 1st team captain at our club and i will either fall into number 4 or just maybe number 1 but I think availability will determine that.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2021, 08:08:12 AM »

Opened nearly all my playing career and it the position that Iv built my game on now, sometimes the situation dictates a different approach and if dropped down the order so be it. I like opening as I like to bat a long time but what ever is best for the team and as im getting older with more commitments on my time need to start blooding someone else at some point.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2021, 10:00:23 AM »

In most teams Ive played in, nobody wants to bat 1-2, or 7-11. Everyone wants to bat at 4-5.

This...  Assuming players are playing 'at their level'... generally if someone wants to go 1-2 and avg's 30+ they are most likely below their level and just want to cruise (nothing wrong with that, in fact.. as it's amateur cricket it's the thing to do. No fun getting 20 or less most weeks as it's a long day and expensive way to spend a day watching others bat)
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2021, 10:21:33 AM »

In most teams I’ve played in, nobody wants to bat 1-2, or 7-11. Everyone wants to bat at 4-5.
Don't see any logic in this,unless you would like shine some more light on this, thanks
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2021, 10:23:52 AM »

This...  Assuming players are playing 'at their level'... generally if someone wants to go 1-2 and avg's 30+ they are most likely below their level and just want to cruise (nothing wrong with that, in fact.. as it's amateur cricket it's the thing to do. No fun getting 20 or less most weeks as it's a long day and expensive way to spend a day watching others bat)
Think this is more true for lower XIs cricket, at least from my experience
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2021, 10:34:40 AM »

Opened nearly all my playing career and it the position that Iv built my game on now, sometimes the situation dictates a different approach and if dropped down the order so be it. I like opening as I like to bat a long time but what ever is best for the team and as im getting older with more commitments on my time need to start blooding someone else at some point.
Soulman, please don't take if it's pointed towards you, it is just my observation,
Why would batsmen be treated as openers opening batsman for life? 🙂
For me it would be only if they've been scoring regularly at good run rate, otherwise others should get chance to open the batting, hopefully you understand where I'm coming from 🙂
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2021, 01:04:21 PM »

Lot of players think they can bat but can they score runs, regularly, against different types of bowling?

That's the question you have to answer.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2021, 01:42:48 PM »

Soulman, please don't take if it's pointed towards you, it is just my observation,
Why would batsmen be treated as openers opening batsman for life? 🙂
For me it would be only if they've been scoring regularly at good run rate, otherwise others should get chance to open the batting, hopefully you understand where I'm coming from 🙂

Doesnt matter what rate you get them at, it's that you actually get them!

Take it from a captain I would everyday of the week and twice on Sundays pick a guy who I know will regularly open and score 50 at a low rate than a guy that will open and get 30 in 4/5 overs and get out.
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