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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2021, 07:01:06 AM »

There is an easy fix to all of this.

Post some videos of you netting, tell us what standard you play and I’m sure we can work out whether you’re worth a do up the order

In the training I try my best not to get out, unless I'm trying out slogging
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2021, 12:50:32 PM »

To be honest I don't see myself batting any higher than no. 8 unless we've only got 7 on the field 😀😀😀
But I don't like to be pinned at 10 or 11 🙂

What are the expectations for a #8? or even a #9? Hypothetically, here is what they need to do: rotate strike and give a batsman (higher in the order) more balls to face. Run hard singles. Convert 2s to 3s. Can you do it? Clear the rope once in a while, maybe? Remember that at that stage, ball is old and not swinging.

It is easier to train for a specific role but you need to know what exactly to train for. Break it down and then train.

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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2021, 02:28:24 PM »

What are the expectations for a #8? or even a #9? Hypothetically, here is what they need to do: rotate strike and give a batsman (higher in the order) more balls to face. Run hard singles. Convert 2s to 3s. Can you do it? Clear the rope once in a while, maybe? Remember that at that stage, ball is old and not swinging.

It is easier to train for a specific role but you need to know what exactly to train for. Break it down and then train.
Yes you've nailed it for me, except for clearing the rope part, 👍👍😀
In many of our 45 overs league games
batting at 8 you've regularly 5-10 overs to bat vs 10/11 1-2 overs, rarely more than 4 overs.
My explanation was the same as yours, adding, with at 8, will enable me to bat out full quota of overs with youngsters, under 16s, which worked out in my last match.
That 14 years old very impressive leg spinner was rusty, talked to him not for going big slog but playing deliveries on their merit, accumulated 7 runs in as many balls 🙂
Later on he bowled really very well, other leggie got 4 wickets!
I came late to bowl, think last 8 to 10 overs.
6th ball of my last over, batter hit me 4 off the back foot, backword square leg.
When I came to bowl the last over the match, 13 were needed, I was confident but still have to bowl well,
I tried to bowl as full as possible, yorker, 1st ball and he tried full blooded hiev to the square led, he's bowled, as he was perfectly yorked.
Later I talked to that youngster, he agreed that those runs in the last over might have won us the game. If it was 6 to win, batter would have played differently.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2021, 04:25:53 PM »

Don't get it, surely the notion that opening in club cricket is a specialist job is well on the way out by now? It's not a test match with Anderson swinging it both ways after all, it's a limited overs game against club bowlers. Helps if your home track is decent to bat on of course, but I wouldn't want to bat anywhere else.
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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2021, 05:05:17 PM »

Don't get it, surely the notion that opening in club cricket is a specialist job is well on the way out by now? It's not a test match with Anderson swinging it both ways after all, it's a limited overs game against club bowlers. Helps if your home track is decent to bat on of course, but I wouldn't want to bat anywhere else.
Exactly, this is why I am of opinion that if someone is more wanting to open the batting should be given few chances, and not having 2 different openers every weekend.
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2021, 06:05:21 PM »

Exactly, this is why I am of opinion that if someone is more wanting to open the batting should be given few chances, and not having 2 different openers every weekend.

If one of our team asked me for 5 weeks to have a go at opening and was putting in the yards in training I'd have no hesitation letting them, don't imagine too many captains would unless you have established openers with a good record up top.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2021, 07:26:36 PM »

If one of our team asked me for 5 weeks to have a go at opening and was putting in the yards in training I'd have no hesitation letting them, don't imagine too many captains would unless you have established openers with a good record up top.
Agree,
 it's in lower league where availability is an issue
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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2021, 07:28:19 PM »

In my experience there are different types in the team -

1. Those who are batting where they want - this is only the best players in the team or the guys who genuinely realise they are rubbish and are ok to bat 11.

2. Those who aren't happy and want to bat higher - the majority of the team

3. Those who are batting out of position for the team - this is the player that has to open because the team doesn't have 2 proper openers but really should be batting 6.

4. The captain - who bats in a different spot every week to accommodate every else.

Myself, I am 1st team captain at our club and i will either fall into number 4 or just maybe number 1 but I think availability will determine that.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2021, 07:36:53 PM »

There is an easy fix to all of this.

Post some videos of you netting, tell us what standard you play and Im sure we can work out whether youre worth a do up the order 😂
Don't have any,
I can post bowling video if you want to 😀
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2021, 08:21:19 PM »

Agree,
 it's in lower league where availability is an issue

Availability will always be an issue in club cricket, especially at low level, but speaking from the basis of a few years skippering my club's bottom side, having a word with the captain and stating your case never hurts as long as it's done in a respectful way. Demanding to bat in any specific position in the order is a no-go.

As others have said, have a discussion and ask what you need to do to get a shot in your ideal position then work bloody hard at it.
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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2021, 12:17:57 PM »

@AJ2014 do you ever get any coaching? What does your coach tell you? What do you tell your coach about your development and where you would like to bat? What do the senior players within the teams you play in say to you?

Ultimately it comes down to this:

1. What do you want out of your cricket/batting?
2. What are you prepared to do to get what you want?
3. Communicating with your captain and club about your development and the opportunities you would like to be given in the future.
4. Scoring runs and taking any chances that you club and team are able to offer you.

Commitment, effort, talent and opportunities. It's all kind of standard themes in sport and team play isn't it?

Good luck and hope you get given the opportunities you would like.

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« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2021, 12:49:22 PM »

@AJ2014 do you ever get any coaching? What does your coach tell you? What do you tell your coach about your development and where you would like to bat? What do the senior players within the teams you play in say to you?

Ultimately it comes down to this:

1. What do you want out of your cricket/batting?
2. What are you prepared to do to get what you want?
3. Communicating with your captain and club about your development and the opportunities you would like to be given in the future.
4. Scoring runs and taking any chances that you club and team are able to offer you.

Commitment, effort, talent and opportunities. It's all kind of standard themes in sport and team play isn't it?

Good luck and hope you get given the opportunities you would like.
Coaching? 😀
Never had it in my life time, except when, luckily coach watched me from behind while I was hesitant to a leggie, in the nets,
the coach said, " take 2 steps out and hit it"
that's what I did and it pretty much worked 😊😊
Some parents think that I'm one of the coach😀😀😃
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2021, 01:00:47 PM »

Then @AJ2014 your first thing is to find a coach or approach a senior player that you trust to talk to about batting.

Hopefully there will be a few players who will fit the bill.

Otherwise put up a video on here and people will be only to happy to offer advice and guidance.

We are all here to help each other after all.

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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2021, 02:13:44 PM »

Then @AJ2014 your first thing is to find a coach or approach a senior player that you trust to talk to about batting.

Hopefully there will be a few players who will fit the bill.

Otherwise put up a video on here and people will be only to happy to offer advice and guidance.

We are all here to help each other after all.
JT, do you know how old I'm?, 😀
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2021, 03:27:19 PM »

JT, do you know how old I'm?, 😀

This is one of my biggest pet peeves. Who cares how old ? Never too old to learn or improve. You could be 70 years old, spend a year working on your game, and enjoy 10 years of improved results.
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