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« Reply #90 on: April 01, 2021, 10:10:32 AM »

Home Counties Prem is a serious standard.

To be honest, any premier league is a very good standard of cricket, and realistically more or less everyone in those leagues is a semi professional player in that they are being paid to play.

No way on earth you can say Surrey is the strongest, or Hants, or HCPL or whatever.
Our 1st team was in Surrey Premier League, only national player/overseas player was paid, no one else,
Think only from minor counties onwards, every player is being paid.
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« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2021, 10:16:43 AM »

@AJ2014 who do you play for
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« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2021, 10:41:02 AM »

Our 1st team was in Surrey Premier League, only national player/overseas player was paid, no one else,
Think only from minor counties onwards, every player is being paid.

One of the problems with comparing leagues is the different rules on the payment of players.  A number of set ups run as open leagues where the is no limit on the number of paid players- or indeed a limit to paid players only turning out in XI cricket - which plainly gives an advantage compared to teams in leagues where the are attempts to enforce restrictions. 
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« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2021, 12:28:49 PM »

One of the problems with comparing leagues is the different rules on the payment of players.  A number of set ups run as open leagues where the is no limit on the number of paid players- or indeed a limit to paid players only turning out in XI cricket - which plainly gives an advantage compared to teams in leagues where the are attempts to enforce restrictions.
Don't think there would be any Premier League clubs, Surrey, will/can pay in this way. Financially not do able
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« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2021, 12:54:34 PM »

Don't like the idea of paying whole of the 1st team!
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« Reply #95 on: April 01, 2021, 01:08:49 PM »

Don't like the idea of paying whole of the 1st team!

Don't think it's a popular idea with any of us who play lower XI cricket to be honest. If I'm paying subs and match fees to play, in addition to volunteering my time to the club, I don't want to see anyone paid unless they're providing benefit to the whole club, ie coaching or grounds work.
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« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2021, 01:39:20 PM »

Don't think it's a popular idea with any of us who play lower XI cricket to be honest. If I'm paying subs and match fees to play, in addition to volunteering my time to the club, I don't want to see anyone paid unless they're providing benefit to the whole club, ie coaching or grounds work.
Add to this, what about the talented youngsters? Who they get enough chance to play for the 1st XI? Don't think so, most likely it's gonna make players leave the club
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« Reply #97 on: April 01, 2021, 02:15:28 PM »

Don't think there would be any Premier League clubs, Surrey, will/can pay in this way. Financially not do able

It isn't something that I like or agree with but it is certainly the case in some leagues that this situation does exist.  That is why comparisons are hard given that it would pitch amateur teams against semi professional ones.

I think this scorecard did the rounds last year. It is a club side with 10 of the 11 who have played to country 2nd XI standard with a helping of first class experience https://hoylandswaine.play-cricket.com/website/results/4456395

Likewise if you have upwards of 30k spare in your budget, Nial O'brien will average 60 in League cricket for you

https://nantwich.play-cricket.com/website/player_stats_widget/batting_stats/3820623 o
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« Reply #98 on: April 01, 2021, 03:51:25 PM »

Then, might it be possible that those clubs don't have good enough players? Or might be that those clubs only have 1 or 2 teams set up? I don't know but it would be interesting to know.
Yes they would pay upto 30k!
Don't remember the name of that player but he was hitting such huge, sky high 6s that I never had seen before! , over the top of club house which is at quite distance from the rope!
Think he scored some 80 runs or more, got caught at the boundary, after hitting 3x6 in the same fashion!
I can see him walking back to the dressing room, fuming, hitting his bat hard on his pads!
We lost the game and relegated! Not because him, but due poor performance of the rest of the team, on that day and the rest of the competition that year.
Guess he could've taken a bit easier after those 6s, I'm sure he was thinking the same!
For these kind of players, clubs are willing to play both amount of money, in Premier League...
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« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2021, 04:27:15 PM »

Players are paid below the level of premier league, whether they are ex pro's, county seconds players or overseas, it happens in my old league are we are 2-3 levels below premier.

If clubs have the financial clout they will pay players. I have always been fundamentally against paying anyone, thankfully more than a couple of us on the committee feel the same.

That does not stop our members asking why we won't budge and pay someone thou.A lot of clubs take the view anyone paid will move on so you are artificially achieving a standard that cannot be maintained long term.
Plus and more importantly you need to consider whether it's morally right when everyone else pays-the gun  player does not.

The last ex pro who played against our club was ex England international fast bowler, retired from first class cricket but not that long ago.
He was getting what I would consider ridiculous money for one league game per week-and any cup competitions they may be in.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #100 on: April 02, 2021, 09:39:49 AM »

Think they all are being paid per match.
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