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Rez

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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2021, 12:08:14 PM »

I'm just not convinced that a better looking bat will hit the ball further.

My personal experience does seem to agree with a grainier bat being quicker to play but still I think so much of that is pressing specific as well. If you took a nice straight 12 grainer and 5 grainer from the same bat maker, I'm pretty sure the 12 grainer would play better sooner however.

The grade 1 in the pic is a good example, gave it a bit of work on the edges and toe the same as I would any bat and a few minutes on the face just to test it but other than that I was happy that the face was match ready straight away.
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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2021, 12:22:30 PM »

It is the case in my experience that more grains will be playable quicker but not last as long as wider grains that take longer to open up but are more durable.  In terms of looks, I have only really found significant blemishes to materially effect performance.   

Grading has definitely changed over time though.  There are bats now graded as G1s that would never have been sold as that when I first started playing.  One can understand the temptation from the bat maker though that putting a different grading sticker on the same bat can add 100+ additional profit.  A different sticker doesn't make any difference to the performance of the bat though had it been graded at a lower grade
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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2021, 12:39:26 PM »

It is the case in my experience that more grains will be playable quicker but not last as long as wider grains that take longer to open up but are more durable.  In terms of looks, I have only really found significant blemishes to materially effect performance.   


Couldn't agree more and I think it's this rather than the performance which means a lot of them end up in the hands of sponsored players. They just want to get 6 bats, swing them around a bit before picking a favourite and then play with it. They have no interest in wandering around the house with a mallet annoying the wife  :)

The fact that it is a cannon straight away is also great news for the sponsor obviously.
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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2021, 02:06:02 PM »

I'm just not convinced that a better looking bat will hit the ball further.

My personal experience does seem to agree with a grainier bat being quicker to play but still I think so much of that is pressing specific as well. If you took a nice straight 12 grainer and 5 grainer from the same bat maker, I'm pretty sure the 12 grainer would play better sooner however.

The grade 1 in the pic is a good example, gave it a bit of work on the edges and toe the same as I would any bat and a few minutes on the face just to test it but other than that I was happy that the face was match ready straight away.
It's all in the quality of the willow and pressing, it's the bat makers who's deciding on which he's gonna give more or less attention.
I've 2x6 grains bats, one was ready to be played in after, say 30 minutes while other took ages. 1st one is harder all sapwood willow while second one is very soft all sapwood.
Both plain bats, from known batmakers.
Grains add to density
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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2021, 02:18:39 PM »

"Grains add to density"?

What exactly do you mean and is that based on any evidence? I don't recall anyone claiming that before.
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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2021, 03:03:38 PM »

"Grains add to density"?

What exactly do you mean and is that based on any evidence? I don't recall anyone claiming that before.
You look so surprised, Jim 😀
I read it here, on this forum and my experience has confirmed it for me.
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Re: What's in a grade?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2021, 03:29:25 PM »

I have seen a few statements like this suggesting that tighter grain bats are as a rule heavier but I think you could only really make a judgement on that if you handle a large volume of clefts.  As a end user who buys heavy bats, I have had both narrow and wide grains

https://www.pryzmcricket.co.uk/blogs/news/tight-grains-vs-wide-grains
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